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I got this Vostok some weeks ago. As far as I understand is a Днепр (Dnieper, the name of a river) Vostok. I have not a clue about its origin.
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I got this Vostok some weeks ago. As far as I understand is a Днепр (Dnieper, the name of a river) Vostok. I have not a clue about its origin.
Any help???
Here are two other examples found by Mchap, a forum member.

I guess that they are related somehow with Ukraine, where the Dnepr river is located.
We were undecided about the DB logo, now it clear that it's Dnepr-Boctok. |>

The only Ukrainian watch factory that i know is Kleinod, that assembled also several Poljot models in the past. Other informations on those papers?

They could be very useful :-!
 

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Here are two other examples found by Mchap, a forum member.

I guess that they are related somehow with Ukraine, where the Dnepr river is located.
We were undecided about the DB logo, now it clear that it's Dnepr-Boctok. |>

The only Ukrainian watch factory that i know is Kleinod, that assembled also several Poljot models in the past. Other informations on those papers?

They could be very useful :-!
Dniepr-Vostok! Huray! :-!
A little long life mistery is near the solution!
 

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So it is obvious that Vostok-Europe is not Vostok's first venture with other firms. Of course, most of us are familiar with Cardi who used Vostok and ZIM-built Pobeda movements to make Cardi-Vostok and Cardi-Victory respectively. I think Vostok Troika has a Belarussian connection, which I have never been able to figure out, and now Dnieper Vostok... another page to the Chistopol permulations. Can't wait to learn more.
 

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I found this in the web:

There is a legend that in 882 a boat of Prince Oleg, a successor of Novgorod prince Rurik, came to Dnieper coast. "The story of time years" tells us that variags Askold and Dir were Rurik combatants (under other version - the boyars), and had no lawful powers for Kiev board. Prince Oleg enticed them to Dnieper coast, killed with the help of his soldiers and took Kiev throne. Other annals specify, that Askold was the descendant of Kiev founder prince Kij. Some annals also say, that Dir was Askold predecessor and died long before Askold coming to Kiev.
Very romantic legend tells us about foundation of man monastery nearby Askold's grave. In 1113 Grand duke Mstislav Vladimirovich, Vladimir Monomah's son, came back home after hunting. It was late, and he got off the way in dark wood (so Pechersk looked liked). Suddenly, prince saw a bright light in a thicket which flew from St. Nikolas image, seeing on a high stub near the road. In memory of this wonderful event, in 1115 Mstislav founded St. Nikolas church man monastery. According to the governor's decree the female monastery was transformed into man.
 

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I found this in the web:

There is a legend that in 882 a boat of Prince Oleg, a successor of Novgorod prince Rurik, came to Dnieper coast. "The story of time years" tells us that variags Askold and Dir were Rurik combatants (under other version - the boyars), and had no lawful powers for Kiev board. Prince Oleg enticed them to Dnieper coast, killed with the help of his soldiers and took Kiev throne. Other annals specify, that Askold was the descendant of Kiev founder prince Kij. Some annals also say, that Dir was Askold predecessor and died long before Askold coming to Kiev.
Yes - that Prince Askold was an amazing guy. Mothers in Ukraine still proudly name their sons after Prince Askold :)
 

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I recall mention some years ago on this forum (might have been a post by Irena Maier) of a short-lived Vostok assembly factory in the eastern part of the Ukraine around the time of the breakup of the USSR.

The lack of country-of-origin markings, and the Ukrainian flag on Michele's example proves that Vostok assembly did survive there for a little while at least.
 

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I recall mention some years ago on this forum (might have been a post by Irena Maier) of a short-lived Vostok assembly factory in the eastern part of the Ukraine around the time of the breakup of the USSR.

The lack of country-of-origin markings, and the Ukrainian flag on Michele's example proves that Vostok assembly did survive there for a little while at least.
Here i found an interesting article: http://www.zn.ua/2000/2675/44285/
Interesting thing, it seems (unless i have misinterpreted the article) that the Desert Shield/Desert Storm series was produced by Dnepr-Boctok. :think:
However, it's not clear if DB was a producer or a distributor (like Ostwok in Switzerland).

Here is the translation in English:

№ 8 (8) on November 26 - on December 2, 1994

COMMANDER - FOR ALL

Author: Nataliya [ABROSIMOVA]

Alexander [Zaytsev] acquired in the firm store "the Dnepr- east" hours with the miniature tank on the dial. Would serve as submariner - would take in the memory about the army here such, with the anchor. By pilot - there are on the counter and hours with the beautiful aircraft…
… Souvenir Alexander drove away to himself home, into Kostroma. Familiar now tortured by orders: when again, allegedly, you do go to Dnepropetrovsk? Are painfully already good hours, beautiful yes reliable, although to themselves such, although into the gift…
- A salesman in what troops did serve?
- Landing force member I, smiles Sergey [Slabushevskiy].
- It does mean, for itself it did select hours with the small parachute?
- No, I "general" burden. There is in the store "the Dnepr- east" and such. And it is not completely compulsory to be the military leader of the high rank in order to purchase "general" or "commander".
Strictly, that not you will select - you will not be mistaken. I certify not from the strange words: the very has such clocks. One-and-a-half years serve smoothly.
One-and-a-half year - not period? Strictly, and to CP itself "the Dnepr- east", figuratively speaking, not period. Is created indeed joint venture 1992- m. And today more logical it would be speak faster about the period of formation, than about the history. But the history of hours began much earlier.
During the war Moscow watch factory was evacuated into Chistopol'. Local masters mastered the production of different devices, which assume the presence of clockwork. To the Sixties on the basis of the approved technologies they created acceptable for the production of wrist watch.
Who knows in them sense, without fail by sign bearing the trademark "Vostok". And he knows that to [chistopolskim] hours from many parameters there are no equal. In particular, their moisture shielding, shockproof quality - out of the competition. Such clocks for the armed forces of the USSR were intended, they were deservedly considered some of the good in the union.
Now [chistopoltsy] on the contract supply their production even to Switzerland, whose glory about the field of the production of hours to doubt is not subject; the stamp of plant "Vostok" they respect also in other countries of Europe, world.
[Chistopolskaya] hour history underwent unique development on [Dnepropetrovshchine] - and one cannot fail to perceive in the very fact of creation. CP "the Dnepr- east" is worthy of imitation an example of the mutually beneficial partnership of the Ukraine with other countries.
What in this situation is profitable to the Ukraine? Creation of the domestic market for technical clocks. Demand "indeed on them as was, so also remains high, since electronic and other extravagant versions, alas, it is far from so reliable. The Ukraine does not thus far have its enterprise, which already today generates the competitive product. To ensure itself with those completing - it is more expensive than to fix joint production with the experienced, mastered advanced technology partner.
- That there was the initiative of the management of two plants, which were being subordinated to the ministry of radio industry of the USSR, tells director CP "the Dnepr- east" Vladimir [Karban]. - Was planned real "niche" in the sphere of the production of consumer goods. However, there was presently the demand of Ukrainian user - and the proposal of Ukrainian producer, capable of realizing on its base rich [chistopolskiy] experience.
Certainly, it was necessary to go to Russia - to learn. Borrowed in the process of studies all, which was required for the adjusting of partner connections. Furthermore, attempting not "to burden" the prime cost of production by excessive overhead expenses, they improved the system of management of production, on the basis of the specific conditions.
Association CP "the Dnepr- east" small -50 people. Basic profession - collector of hours. There are no factory managements practically, since all processes of calculation, control, distribution and so forth they are computerized. The programs, which correspond to this production, developed independently. Work - piece-work: you will try - can obtain for your labor very well. In the limitations of enterprise, naturally: general economic crisis does not leave place for "the oases of prosperity". Indeed the problem of contra accounts with Russia, constant changes in the legislation, high costs of those completing, energy carriers and much is other - all this cannot but be reflected in the state of the affairs of enterprise.
The state of the matters CP "the Dnepr- east" is, however, far from as complex as in the associations, where in time they did not consider the sad prospects for the break of economic ties with the states - the former republics of the USSR. And the thus far latter in a hurry learn- are retrained to work in the new conditions, CP "the Dnepr- east" already has the positive experience of the adjusting of joint production. Are let out to 30 types of hours, about 10000 pieces - monthly.
Is it possible to release productions more? If necessary - yes.
- A is profitable whether to become everything more profitable and it is more profitable under the conditions of contemporary taxation?
If precisely contemporary, then - it is profitable. Indeed foreign investments, explains Vladimir [Ignatevich]. - We are freed from the tax to the profit.
Who does not know, as it is difficult to secure by the support of foreign investor, let it envy now "to the privileges", guaranteed to our CP… However, rest realize without the excess words: no one no one invests especially by way of charity. Right in investment is guaranteed, first of all, by the responsibility to prove its own justifiability in the plan of the mastery of contemporary technologies, achievement of the high quality of work, production.
As [souchreditel], ON "Dneprovsk Machine Building Plant" could guarantee "to the east" precisely this, on top of that and not in the words: article [DMZ] - goods of the popular consumption, which recommended itself as the increased buyer demand even on the All-Union market. But [V]..[Karban], present leader CP, had a work experience by the general foreman of the Dneprovsk Machine Building Plant.
[Chistopolskie] hours knew how to be affirmed, also, on the World Market. Is it possible to speak, that the production CP "the Dnepr- east" is not also limited to Ukrainian scales? Boldly!
Only two examples. Hours with the state symbolism (flag, the coat of arms of the Ukraine) were produced for the Supreme Soviet of the first convocation, on the nominal orders of deputies. Then in [MIDe] they noted: at long last, it is said, appeared the production, which can represent us on the World Market precisely as the Ukraine, and that all breeches yes [Petrikovskaya] painting…
Second example: hours "Desert Storm" are executed to order American firm. Yes, to that military operation it is possible to relate differently, but to the very fact of the order of a foreign firm - unambiguously: the quality of production CP "the Dnepr- east" is very high.
The small party of hours left also for England.
It does mean, to eat sense to leave for the outside market? In CP, however, with this they do not hurry. Ukrainian market is not thus far saturated, it is more important to care about its user. Yes even it is complicated by import- removal be occupied to now. Some [proplaty] alone with the constantly changing courses, the conditions of account and so forth of what they stand! But Vladimir [Ignatevich] it is confident:
- Difficulties - temporary. After being collected patience and the desire to learn to live and to work better, we in everything will reach high level. Indeed we have industrious people, there are many good specialists, there are the industrial power, which are completely operational… It is important so that the government and the President, who proclaimed truly market program, would be turned facing the producer.
… Producer CP "the Dnepr- east" knows how to work on- market. Presidential program, therefore, reflected the main thing, that it is necessary for the association, the aim is development, to ever more civilized method of production and to a way of life.
- Vladimir [Ignatevich], CP "the Dnepr- east" produce production including on the orders. Can our publication, for example, order hours with its logotype?
- Unconditionally. Like any enterprise, any organization, firm, which worry about the advertisement, the propaganda of its activity, the imprinting of the history of its development.
Krivoy Rog miners ordered to us hours "dry beam", frontier-guards - with their symbolism. There are preliminary claims of banks, different commercial organizations.
Yes, all gradually enter into market, and it means, they perceive the need to represent, to advertise themselves and their production vividly, it is nonstandard, it is solid. This demand will increase - CP "the Dnepr- east" is ready to answer by proposal!
 
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