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I Found this Rolex History on a Watch Dealers Webbsite and checked the facts with Wikipedia. Where it Says Source: Wikipedia That is from WikiPedia Where it says from a Watch dealer that is from the Watch Dealer

From A Watch Dealers Webbsite

“Rolex Watch History”
Rolex watches were founded in the late 1920's. Since then Rolex watches have been responsible for most of the horological innovations of the last century: first wrist watch, first automatic watch and the first waterproof watches , Rolex watches specialize in the production of high-precision wristwatches and chronometers.

1) 1st Wrist watch??????? :-s

2) First Self Winding Source: Wikipedia

The first "self-winding," or "automatic," wristwatch was the invention of a British watch repairer named John Harwood in 1923. This type of watch allows for a constant winding without special action from the wearer: it works by an eccentric weight, called a winding rotor.


3) 1st Dive watch Source: Wikipedia

Neither Panerai, Blancpain, nor Rolex can claim to have produced the first dive watch, as the Omega "Marine," introduced in 1932, probably deserves that title.

1st Omega
2nd Panerai
3rd Blancpain
4th Rolex

The Truth seems very flexible, Thought I should try and be factual but it is not easy :roll:

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Wikipedia is only as reliable as the person giving the info. That being said, I usually don't have any problems with Wikipedia.
 

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Thanks Watch-man7777,

It confirms what I was saying about Omega being an innovative company, I must admit I thought Blancpain was the first divers watch, but Omega only narrowly beat Panerai.

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Please edit the misleading title of your thead. You yourself made clear that you quoted a dealer`s web site not wikipedia :think:

From Wikipedia:

"Rolex SA was founded in 1905 by the German Hans Wilsdorf and his brother-in-law, Alfred Davis. Contrary to popular belief, Hans Wilsdorf was neither Swiss, nor a watchmaker. Wilsdorf & Davis was the original name of what later became the Rolex Watch Company. They originally imported Hermann Aegler's Swiss movements to England and placed them in quality cases made by Dennison and others. These early wristwatches were then sold to jewellers, who then put their own names on the dial. The earliest watches from Wilsdorf and Davis were usually marked "W&D" inside the caseback.

Hans Wilsdorf, along with Michael Hickman, registered the trademark name "Rolex" in La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland, in 1908. The word was made up, and its origin is obscure. One story, which was never confirmed by Wilsdorf, is that the word "Rolex" came from the French phrase horlogerie exquise, meaning exquisite clockwork. Another story claims that Wilsdorf was riding a bus when he realized that "rolex" was the sound a watch made while being wound.[3]


Vintage DaytonaThe Wilsdorf & Davis company moved out of the United Kingdom in 1912. Wilsdorf wanted his watches to be affordable,[citation needed] but taxes and export duties on the case metals (silver and gold) were driving costs up. From that time to the present, Rolex has been headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland, though the company owns facilities in other cities (Biel/Bienne, etc) and continents (North America, Asia, Australia, etc).

The company name Rolex was officially registered on 15 November 1915. It is thought this change was part of a drive to popularize wristwatches, which at the time were still considered a novelty largely for women (pocket watches were more common). Wilsdorf was said to desire his watch brand's name to be easily pronounceable in any language. The company name was officially changed to the Rolex Watch Company during 1919. It was later changed to Montres Rolex, SA; and finally Rolex, SA.

Rolex SA is a corporation initiated and originally funded by Hans Wilsdorf and the Aegler family. According to corporate documentation, the Rolex SA company can never be sold, nor can shares in it be traded on any stock market.
Other innovations
The Rolex Submariner Date ProfessionalAmong the company's innovations are the first waterproof watch case; the first wristwatch with a date on the dial; the first watch to show two timezones at once; and most importantly the first watchmakers to earn the coveted chronometer certification for a wristwatch.[4] To date, Rolex still holds the record for the most certified chronometer movements in the category of wristwatches.

Another little known fact is that Rolex participated in the development of the original quartz watch movements. Although Rolex has made very few quartz models for its Oyster line, the company's engineers were instrumental in design and implementation of the technology during the late 1960s and early 1970s. In 1968, Rolex collaborated with a consortium of 16 Swiss watch manufacturers to develop the Beta 21 quartz movement used in their Rolex Quartz Date 5100.[5] Consequently, after five years of research, design, and development, Rolex engineering efforts finally culminated in the "clean-slate" 5035/5055 movement that would eventually power the Rolex Oysterquartz - arguably the finest quartz movement that has ever been made.[6]

The first self-winding Rolex watch was offered to the public in 1931, preceded to the market by Harwood which patented the design in 1923 and produced the first self-winding watch in 1928, powered by an internal mechanism that used the movement of the wearer's arm. This not only made watch-winding unnecessary, but eliminated the problem of over-winding a watch and harming its mechanism. Rolex was also the first watch company to create a truly waterproof watch — another milestone from novelty to functional timepiece. Wilsdorf even went so far as to have a specially made Rolex watch attached to the side of the Trieste bathyscaphe, which went to the bottom of the Mariana Trench. The watch survived and tested as having kept perfect time during its descent and ascent. This was confirmed by a telegram sent to Rolex the following day saying "Am happy to confirm that even at 11,000 metres your watch is as precise as on the surface. Best regards, Jacques Piccard".

Rolex has also made a reputation in watches suitable for the extremes of deep-sea diving, aviation and mountain climbing. Early sports models included the Rolex submariner, Oyster Perpetual Sea Dweller 2000 (in 1971). This watch featured a helium release valve, co-invented with Swiss watchmaker Doxa, to release helium gas build-up during decompression. Another sports model is the Rolex GMT Master II, originally developed at the request of Pan Am Airways, to assist pilots in transcontinental flights. The Explorer and Explorer II were developed specifically for explorers who would navigate rough terrain — such as the world famous Everest Expeditions."

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Mike It says from a Watch Dealers Webbsite In bold Underlined at the Top and next to each of the answers I quote the source.

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I found a quotation on a Webbsite, I checked the information and quoted the Source I even asked the Question how reliable is Wikipedia so that Forum members could have their say about the source.

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Mike It says from a Watch Dealers Webbsite In bold Underlined at the Top and next to each of the answers I quote the source.

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I realized that, but I asekd you to edit the title of the thread. You obviously didn't read what I wrote or you are not willing to understand :think:

[qoute]Please edit the misleading title of your thead. You yourself made clear that you quoted a dealer`s web site not wikipedia[/quote].

Now I edited the title. Period.
 

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Mike

The original question was about the accuracy of Wilkipedia in analysing Sales information.

Now it is about sales information.

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We know what ALL your posts are about.
 
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Mike

The original question was about the accuracy of Wilkipedia in analysing Sales information.

Now it is about sales information.

John
You had your chance to edit the title, right ? If you are not willing to edit which obviously is the case (because you spent your time to answer posts here, but didn't edit the title) you have to live with my decision/editing the thread title.
 
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