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To be blunt your photos are blurry and useless. Also should be posted in the Pocket Watch forum. if you have a digital camera use the macro function (flower) with no flash.
 

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To be blunt your photos are blurry and useless. Also should be posted in the Pocket Watch forum. if you have a digital camera use the macro function (flower) with no flash.
This !

Btw: Deleted your duplicate post on our Seiko forum.
 

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The second looks like a Chinese duplex to me, but that's a wild guess based on the sweep second hand(which, incidentally, should "jump" at 1 second intervals on a true Chinese duplex) and the shape of the bridges.

The first looks like a generic Swiss right angle lever.

As said, better photos would help tremendously.
 
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