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Is this a knockoff?

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Hey guys. This is my first post here, so please be gentle lol.
I'm a 15 year old guy that likes to dress classy, so I've been looking for a nice watch to wear along with some of my outfits. I stumbled upon a Russian brand named Pobeda, or "Victory." One model caught my eye. It is the 1MCHZ, a plain faced model. I really like how good of a condition it is in, but my parents insist on telling me it is a knockoff, because the price "wouldn't be so low for a watch that was made in the 1950s." Can you guys help me out here?
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Thanks! I'm liking it around here so far, I like Russian watches a lot haha. Here are some more pics.
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+1. Believe it or not, you can get mechanical Russian watches, that still keep good time, for less than $40 on a good day. (Most watches depreciate in value, and except for a few models, antique watches of famous Swiss and American brands can be had for very reasonable prices (unless they're gold). One of the reasons is that the condition will deteriorate. Another reason is that mechanical watches will often need to be serviced-- that is taken apart, lubricated, made sure that everything works, and reassembled. Modern watch companies suggest a service every 5 - 10 years, but it's not a requirement. Many of these old watches may not have been serviced, and that may mean that they'll either not keep very good time, or they may stop in the relatively near future. To service a watch could cost $100 or more. So that's one other cost of ownership to consider. (Though, these watches are so cheap and plentiful, you may not need to worry about service.)

But to be sure it's authentic, we'd need a picture of the movement. (It's usually not worth it to "fake" these watches, because originals aren't that much more expensive than the fakes.) What sometimes happens is that parts from some watches might be thrown in others, we call them "frankens," or someone might use a newer set of hands, or a new face, to refresh an old watch. Someone with more skill than I can tell you if that has happened with this watch.

I'm impressed that a 15 year old would be conscientiousness enough to look for vintage watches to wear. One thing to note, though, is that these Pobedas are quite small by today's standards -- usually 32 mm in diameter. That is about the size of a standard woman's watch today. That's not a big deal, and it might go with your fashion very well. I just didn't want you to be surprised if you bought it online and it came and was considerably smaller than you thought it might be.

Welcome, and enjoy!
Thanks for all the info! The seller doesn't say whether or not this watch has been serviced, so I'm wary as to whether or not i should purchase it. This is what the items description says:
USSR RUSSIAN MEN'S POBEDA-1MCHZ KIROVA
PARAMETERS OF ITEM:
Diameter case -32 mm.
Diameter dial's -30 mm.
Thickness -12 mm.
15 jewels

A watch mechanical and completely original.
A watch in a good condition and well work.

32 mm does seem a bit small, but I think it could work.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. I think that it's good to shake things up a bit. Not many guys my age like to dress well or wear watches, so I think it's good to change things. If anyone is a Pobeda expert, can you tell me the model of this exact watch? It's pretty similar to the one I've posted before, but this one isn't missing the 6. Much thanks.
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