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Hi!,
Looks legit to me - OV Olma logo - take a look and also on Olma www logo section.

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Cool thanks. I wasn't sure if the spacing was quite right between the V and O. The space looked bigger then other Olma logos I had seen.
 

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@ OP: rest assured - nobody in his right state of mind will ever fake an Olma ;-)

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@ OP: rest assured - nobody in his right state of mind will ever fake an Olma ;-)

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OP, did not mention "fake", only if dial had been re-worked ("redial?"), and that could be done by an owner of an Olma too. A re-worked dial does not make a watch a fake.

In this case, I think dial is original.

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OP, did not mention "fake", only if dial had been re-worked ("redial?"), and that could be done by an owner of an Olma too. A re-worked dial does not make a watch a fake.
You're right. I correct my statement as follows:

"Nobody in his right state of mind will ever fake or redial an Olma."

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I have seen Olma watches sell for silly money so you never know but it's the oldeer models that fetch these higher prices.
well they are probably 'OlmaDeer' models.

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Never say "will never", in Horology everything/anything can happen.

That said in OPs case watch appears original dial and not faked!
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I wrote "nobody in his right state of mind will ever ...". Why should he when it's as expensive to 'redial' an Olma (market value < 50 €) as an Omega (market value > 50 €). Note: 'right state of mind' ;-)

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I wrote "nobody in his right state of mind will ever ...". Why should he when it's as expensive to 'redial' an Olma (market value < 50 €) as an Omega (market value > 50 €). Note: 'right state of mind' ;-)

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I read well what you wrote.
Now take this scenario.

watch was owned by your (ones) Father who died.
You wish to wear your Dads watch, but dial is totally distressed.

You buy another watch or re-dial?

You (I) decide to 're-dial'. Means I am 'insane'? No, I think not.

It happens. Doing '"insane" things to 'you' may seem 'normal' to people you term "not in a right state of mind".

Fact is people do things that appear 'strange' to us, but normal to them. It does not make them "insane" or 'stupid'. It makes them 'human'. No more, no less.

Answer to this thread is. Dial appears 100% original, and no reason to claim it as a fake. No more, no less.

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Indeed I redialled my father's watch. But it is not up for sale. The Olma is - and the op asked before he bought a watch because he was afraid to fall for a 'sales treatment'.

Anyway, I end this discussion now - I think everyone here understood what I meant - maybe with one exception.


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Indeed I redialled my father's watch. But it is not up for sale. The Olma is - and the op asked before he bought a watch because he was afraid to fall for a 'sales treatment'.

Anyway, I end this discussion now - I think everyone here understood what I meant - maybe with one exception.


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Excellent as its a mighty big jump from here:

@ OP: rest assured - nobody in his right state of mind will ever fake an Olma ;-)

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And your point is ...?
 

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I'm going to fix up some watches (and yes one is a Olma) that I will end up paying more for then I will get selling them because I feel very strongly about them so yes there are some mad people out there... :)

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Sure not everyone see what I see but that's what's so great with these old watches
 

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And your point is ...?
My point is, that perfectly normal people may re-dial any watch regardless to its intrinsic value.
and doing so does not make them mentally retarded or the watch a fake.

Just a simple observation.

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My point is, that perfectly normal people may re-dial any watch regardless to its intrinsic value.
and doing so does not make them mentally retarded or the watch a fake.

Just a simple observation.

Adam
"I plead Insanity, your Honor. I'm just crazy about that stuff!"
 

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That is a classic "how to hammer home" a point! :-D
 
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That is a classic "how to hammer home" a point! :-D
It is, indeed.



;-)

Pleading "guilty on all counts",

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... and, generally speaking, redialling per se doesn't have to be a bad thing. Adam was right when he stated that a decent redialing job for most of us may be preferrable to a genuine, but barely readable dial. (I, for my part, have kept the original dial of my dad's old watch and may even send it in for professional restoration. And yes, I know this will exceed the watches value - but then, it's a heirloom and will never be sold anyway.) It's just if you have to make a living of shining old watches to sell them at a profit you won't do a professional redialing only in cases where there is a chance to recover its costs (which is what even Shum admits, highly unlikely.)

The real bad thing is that many redials incorporate a re-branding, too, thus turning a (say) 'Gérard et Fils' Chronograph into a 'Girard Perregeaux' or an 'Olma' into an 'Omega' (what else? b-)). And then there are those Mumbai Watch Tinkering Co. Ltd., Inc. products showing gaudy faces (often with surprisingly good prints over them) for which apparently many people in SEA fall. (If all those well-made redials just used the right colors, they might even be of interest for the serious collector. But that's just my two cents.) Unfortunately, the quality of the service done to the movements is often horrible, which is what Western collectors realise after the first watch they buy from there. That's where the Indian watchmakers' bad reputation comes from. The business model, however, has been spread to South America which is currently picking up on India's bad repute. Just think 'Baume & Mercier' ;-)

All said, one shouldn't reply to any provocative post, maybe. At least not at the dead of night ... ;-)

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