Hey really appreciate the pic. Looks good! Not too big at all.
I've got $500 to blow, Sumo or PMMM?
I bet this has been beat to death and I apologize to add yet another thread to this topic but I really appreciate anyone who's willing to give me some advice.
I did do a search and spent a lot of time in some of the other threads and haven't seen this exact topic covered. Please direct me if it has!
I love the look of the MM300. I will never be able to afford a MM300. I have $500 to spend. So I'm looking at either getting an SKX that's been modded, or the Sumo. These are the two watches I feel will give me the most MM300 vibe on a budget, I've looked at the Tunas and that case shape is not for me, sorry. I love the Sumo's dial and I'm blown away that such a great dial could be had at that price, however the bezel, flat case shape and long lug size looks like it might be a turn off for me, but I can't know for sure because no dealer by me carries it, and it's impossible to get a sense of how it really looks on an arm because all the pics of it online are taken 4 inches away from the dial. (My wrist is 7.5" so I think I could pull it off, but just aesthetic wise it might be too much watch for my taste).
Whereas I love the case and shape of the SKX007, but not so much the dial. So a PMMM seems like the right choice, except with a PMMM I'm subject to the expertise of whoever did the mods which could've been done poorly and I'm likely going to lose the WR, am I right in assuming that?
So my questions are:
1. Are PMMMs I find on ebay and other places a safe bet or are there sketchy mods out there?
2. Is there a place online that sells professionally constructed PMMMs?
3. Does an SKX171 that's been modded lose it's 200m water resistance?
4. Can any Sumo owners here post pics of themselves with their Sumo's, but panned back a bit to see how it looks in relationship to a full arm/torso/body? My kingdom for a video of someone standing 20 feet away from the camera wearing a Sumo and just rotating around.
Appreciate the help!
I did do a search and spent a lot of time in some of the other threads and haven't seen this exact topic covered. Please direct me if it has!
I love the look of the MM300. I will never be able to afford a MM300. I have $500 to spend. So I'm looking at either getting an SKX that's been modded, or the Sumo. These are the two watches I feel will give me the most MM300 vibe on a budget, I've looked at the Tunas and that case shape is not for me, sorry. I love the Sumo's dial and I'm blown away that such a great dial could be had at that price, however the bezel, flat case shape and long lug size looks like it might be a turn off for me, but I can't know for sure because no dealer by me carries it, and it's impossible to get a sense of how it really looks on an arm because all the pics of it online are taken 4 inches away from the dial. (My wrist is 7.5" so I think I could pull it off, but just aesthetic wise it might be too much watch for my taste).
Whereas I love the case and shape of the SKX007, but not so much the dial. So a PMMM seems like the right choice, except with a PMMM I'm subject to the expertise of whoever did the mods which could've been done poorly and I'm likely going to lose the WR, am I right in assuming that?
So my questions are:
1. Are PMMMs I find on ebay and other places a safe bet or are there sketchy mods out there?
2. Is there a place online that sells professionally constructed PMMMs?
3. Does an SKX171 that's been modded lose it's 200m water resistance?
4. Can any Sumo owners here post pics of themselves with their Sumo's, but panned back a bit to see how it looks in relationship to a full arm/torso/body? My kingdom for a video of someone standing 20 feet away from the camera wearing a Sumo and just rotating around.
Appreciate the help!
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Thanks for all the replies guys. It sounds like everyone is pro Sumo. However, I'm wondering about purchasing a new SKX007 and then getting a Sumo dial and hands, and possibly the 61r5 movement and having a pro assemble it for me? After searching last night it seems a few people have done this. Can anyone speak to whether or not this is a simple mod for a professional watch builder?
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PMMM, (Poor Man's Marine Master). The term used to described modded SKX's to emulate MM300s. Sorry, I should've maybe clarified that.
All this pro Sumo talk is definitely giving me pause. I think I'm just drawn to the SKX's more "classic" diver proportions. I know it doesn't compare to the Sumo on paper. But 99% of the time I see pics of the Sumo on a wrist it looks mammoth, whereas the SKX's case and bezel always seems to look "right" in every pic. Someone here mentioned getting a Sumo first, and flipping it if it's not to my liking. That's not a bad idea.
Shopping around it looks like I can score a new Sumo and a 007 (unmodded) for around $600. I think I'll do that. I can always mod the 007 later. I feel good about this decision.
Hey thanks for the link and advice!
"Poor Man's Marine Master"
Thanks for the insight guys. In true Seikoholic fashion I've decided to get both. It's only $100 above my original budget of $500 for the pair. And I can always have the 007 modded if I want to later. I have a Sarb033, SNKP23, and SNZG15, but these will be my first divers! Gonna be a great xmas this year!
I appreciate the pics! The side view in particular is helpful getting a sense of it.View attachment 13635819 View attachment 13635821 View attachment 13635825
Keith, I like your idea to by both and see for yourself. I posted the best distance pics I could find of my old sumo on my 7.25" wrist. I love the quality and design of the Sumo, I had to sell a few watches for financial reasons and miss my sumo the most. I agree the SKX wears a bit better, but the look and quality make the added size of the Sumo worth while, it does feel like a higher quality piece. The SKX is at a price point where as long as you like the look, can be a great work free GADA watch with out having to worry about it too much. And if you do break it, there is your opportunity to mod and upgrade. My sKX is 12 years old and runs slow and will need a service. Thinking of upgrading the movement to NH36 and adding a sapphire to give it a new look and feel.
Crap I was all set to get black but now I see that SBDC069 and I can't decide!
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