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Hello there! I recently purchased a used Jaeger LeCoultre MUTM online, and I have a few more days left within the return window. I previously had a JLC Reserve de Marche, sold it, and purchased the MUTM because I like the less cluttered dial (and the indicator on a 40-hour power reserve wasn’t as useful as I had imagined).
Because a new JLC MUTM runs in the low $7K's/high $6K’s from an online AD, and because my budget is more mid-to-low $5K’s (if not lower) I was looking to buy a mint used. I found one for mid $5K, with “box and papers”, mildly used.
Receiving it, there were a few red flags:
1. The book was for an older model (Pre-MUT updated release)
2. The pusher was obviously after market (all steel, no plastic tip as JLC pushers have)
3. The band was put on backwards (not a big deal, but odd)
4. I called the jeweler in Switzerland where the Authorized Dealer certificate is from, and the representative said they have not sold JLC for a few years, outdating this model
5. Most importantly, there are a few very small but significant dents on the steel bezel (especially at 11 o’clock); the dents don’t go all the way through the bezel edge to the interior of the bezel (where it meets the sapphire), but the dents a) catch the light occasionally, and b) leave me to question if the water resistance has been compromised, or could be in the future
On the plus side:
1. The box appears genuine
2. Everything I can see/compare to leads me to believe it is a genuine JLC, not a high end reproduction; the hands, indexes, logo, caseback, movement finishing & screws, movement word placing, etc.; everything looks in order
3. It keeps impeccable time
4. It looks really great, if you can ignore the dings/dents, which most people would not notice; see pictures
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So, a few questions:
Should I still be worried this is a knock off?
If I may want to sell this down the line, does the lack of authentic papers and the dings set me back that much?
Should I return it and either 1) pony up for a brand new MUTM, or 2) wait until a more mint used comes along?
I’m leaning toward asking for a refund of a few hundred dollars to account for the dings that were not described, or else returning and playing the waiting game.
Any advice appreciated!!!
Because a new JLC MUTM runs in the low $7K's/high $6K’s from an online AD, and because my budget is more mid-to-low $5K’s (if not lower) I was looking to buy a mint used. I found one for mid $5K, with “box and papers”, mildly used.
Receiving it, there were a few red flags:
1. The book was for an older model (Pre-MUT updated release)
2. The pusher was obviously after market (all steel, no plastic tip as JLC pushers have)
3. The band was put on backwards (not a big deal, but odd)
4. I called the jeweler in Switzerland where the Authorized Dealer certificate is from, and the representative said they have not sold JLC for a few years, outdating this model
5. Most importantly, there are a few very small but significant dents on the steel bezel (especially at 11 o’clock); the dents don’t go all the way through the bezel edge to the interior of the bezel (where it meets the sapphire), but the dents a) catch the light occasionally, and b) leave me to question if the water resistance has been compromised, or could be in the future
On the plus side:
1. The box appears genuine
2. Everything I can see/compare to leads me to believe it is a genuine JLC, not a high end reproduction; the hands, indexes, logo, caseback, movement finishing & screws, movement word placing, etc.; everything looks in order
3. It keeps impeccable time
4. It looks really great, if you can ignore the dings/dents, which most people would not notice; see pictures
So, a few questions:
Should I still be worried this is a knock off?
If I may want to sell this down the line, does the lack of authentic papers and the dings set me back that much?
Should I return it and either 1) pony up for a brand new MUTM, or 2) wait until a more mint used comes along?
I’m leaning toward asking for a refund of a few hundred dollars to account for the dings that were not described, or else returning and playing the waiting game.
Any advice appreciated!!!
