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Hi everyone, new here. :)


Just got the Protrek PRX-2000T

I have owned the PRX-1300 for the last 3 years and after seeing this watch, wanted to move over.
First, it fits like a glove. it is only 2mm thinner than my PRX-1300 but it feels better.
I thought it would feel Heavier but it does not, as my current Casio is 59gr and this one comes in around 103gr.
But I do not feel the extra weight, I loved the G-Shocks but the size and weight was always a issue with me.

The workmanship is great, the top of the watch is made from titanium with the middle made of resin and the bottom made from titanium. ( like a titanium sandwich) ;-)

The MSR is 99,000 yen here but I pick it up for 60,000 yen ($600 US)at Bic Camera, 30% off up front and 13% discount in points which ends up 43% off the price.

Is it worth it? Well too me yes, it fits better, looks better and I love the titan band over the rubber one that my PRX-1300 has.

Very happy PRX-2000T owner :):-!
 

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Very nice, and a big congratulations! :-! It would be great to hear more about it, and if you can post some pictures, too. I know that there are a lot of members on the forum who can't wait to see live pictures of it! :)

Welcome to the forum, dctokyo.
 

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Hi everyone, new here. :)

Just got the Protrek PRX-2000T

I have owned the PRX-1300 for the last 3 years and after seeing this watch, wanted to move over.
First, it fits like a glove. it is only 2mm thinner than my PRX-1300 but it feels better.


hi,

i presume with PRX-1300 you mean a PAW-1300? 2mm thinner means the PRX-2000 is only 9.5mm thick? hm, looks quite fragile to me - especially for a though outdoors watch...:think:


regards, holger
 

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hi,

i presume with PRX-1300 you mean a PAW-1300? 2mm thinner means the PRX-2000 is only 9.5mm thick? hm, looks quite fragile to me - especially for a though outdoors watch...:think:


regards, holger
Hi holger,

sorry my bad, the PAW-1300 is 11.5mm thick and the PRX-2000T is 11.3mm thick 2 tens of a mm :oops:
I think the PRW-1300 is called the PAW-1300 outside of Japan.
 

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Very nice, and a big congratulations! :-! It would be great to hear more about it, and if you can post some pictures, too. I know that there are a lot of members on the forum who can't wait to see live pictures of it! :)

Welcome to the forum, dctokyo.
Hi BenL, will try to post some pictures soon.
Before everyone starts in with the price, it is a birthday present and my wife wanted to give me a nice watch that I wanted. I own the PRW-1300 and this was a very nice upgrade from it.

I think the PRW-1300 is called the PAW-1300 outside of Japan.
 

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I for one would welcome a return to Casio`s earlier strategies, forget about miniaturizing the Protrek line, and focus on a field tool, ABC`s have always been a specialist watch. Don`t get me wrong, Protrek`s have served me well for years, I like them and they work for me, just that Casio`s focus seems to be on reduction of size not quality of measurements & enhancement of functionality, since 05 we have only seen the implementation of moon phase & tide-graph. Ten years back the ABC market was confined to only a few manufacturers, jumping forward to 2009 it is a very different story...

Casio`s feature sets continuously change from model to model and not always for the better, each module in the line up has at least one significant drawback, which is frustrating i.e. 24hr CDT versus 60min CDT versus 10hr Chrono versus 24hr Chrono, logging delivering min & max total ascent & descent to simply max altitude.
Technically Casio is very much lagging behind, still only having a altitude resolution of 5M (20ft), realistically no change since 1995 and the ATC-1000. All but one ABC in their lineup, they appear to have no thermal compensation and to the best of my knowledge no barometric locks to prevent excessive altimeter drift.

I don`t want to burst your bubble and not enjoy the PRX, as it a beautiful watch, however it is a mediocre ABC at best, Casio has a large range of ABC watches; I and I also believe many others would like them to see Casio produce a more realistic ABC in 2009 alongside the like`s of the PRX line. The sad reality is you can buy an ABC for a fraction of the cost that has much greater resolution & accuracy, far more balanced feature sets. As some have already stated on this forum Casio are heading in the wrong direction, for many the ABC watch is a field tool and performance is what counts. I would gladly pay the asking price for a PRX if it equally performed, however from the specifications I do not see that level of field performance, and this is why the PRX-2000T is not embraced by the community, had the PRX brought ground breaking ABC & timing performance I believe the very opposite would have applied, unfortunately I feel that Casio no longer has an interest in designing ABC`s for the enthusiast or professional market.

I had hoped for a step change in Casio`s ABC performance, and yes we have seen this to some extent only is in the wrong direction focusing on aesthetics; sapphire crystal, Ti Oxide coatings, miniaturization of sensors. however I seriously doubt that the PRX-2000T will perform to any greater level than the soon to be released PRW-2000, and in all practicality, the same as the present-day PRW-1300, unless they have added thermal compensation and barometric locks.

I hope that you prove me wrong and that the PRX-2000T is truly a revolutionary performing ABC...

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Does it have the same specifications as your PRX-1300? And specs aside, that is one sweet looking watch!
 

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As per usual Q6, I am in full agreement with you on this issue. It's the only thing that stops me buying a Protrek; that they're not tough enough and accurate enough for real field work which is what I want one for. o|

May be you should start a petition. :think:
 

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As per usual Q6, I am in full agreement with you on this issue. It's the only thing that stops me buying a Protrek; that they're not tough enough and accurate enough for real field work which is what I want one for. o|

May be you should start a petition. :think:

Well thoughnes-wise I think they are though enough, casio probably makes the thoughest ABC's with the PRG-40 and PRG-80 aswell as the PAW-1500 are quite though.

But the problem with casio ABC's is the lack of sophistication and advancements in the sensor technology and their software.
 

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Well thoughnes-wise I think they are though enough, casio probably makes the thoughest ABC's with the PRG-40 and PRG-80 aswell as the PAW-1500 are quite though.
Not really, as Q6 said, the older Protreks have a much more robust build to them whereas the newer models the focus has been on smaller, thinner and lighter, all of which can only make them less tough, and seemingly less accurate unless new compensating designs are implimented. The 1500 feels way flimsier than the old PAG-40's or PRG-80's imho.

Casio's focus in ABC design has gone in the wrong direction here. They're trying to make a trendy, half baked ABC watch that will appeal as a fashion item rather than making a more effective field tool.
 

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Does it have the same specifications as your PRX-1300? And specs aside, that is one sweet looking watch!
The same spec`s but more
The PRX-2000T has the Multi-band 6 atomic sync, if your not living in Asia then it will not help you, but I travel to Korea and Hong Kong alot and the new atomic sync point in China will sync my watch for me in that area :-!

Love the Duplex LC display for the compass, very easy to read, also the Display on sunrise and day at entering time is something I wanted which the PRX-1300 does not have also.

The sapphire glass with the reflectionless coating is great, the visibility is better than the 1300.
 

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@ Queen6 I agree with you on that point about upgrading the technology first then looking at how to improve the looks.

@ dctokyo Congrats on the new watch. I think you're the first on the forum to pull the trigger. Hope you can run some tests and let us know how it holds up.

I do wonder, with all the constructive criticisms here on the forum about the protrek line up, do we have any one who works for Casio here listening in?
 

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@ Queen6 I agree with you on that point about upgrading the technology first then looking at how to improve the looks.

@ dctokyo Congrats on the new watch. I think you're the first on the forum to pull the trigger. Hope you can run some tests and let us know how it holds up.

I do wonder, with all the constructive criticisms here on the forum about the protrek line up, do we have any one who works for Casio here listening in?

I certainly don`t have an issues with aesthetics of the new PRX-2000 & PRW-2000 I just wish that Casio would cater for the professional/enthusiast market as well, it`s not the cost, many will pay more for a professional product, the likes of dive computers etc.

Casio has the resources to design and manufacture a top class field ABC instrument, yet they show no intention of delivering such a product.
Personally I find myself more & more drawn to competitors products, simply due to the increased levels of accuracy & resolution. The harsh reality is anyone using an ABC in a field environment is always going to defer to the most reliable and better specified. If the future of Protrek/Pathfinder is simply to be one of high quality watches with some interesting additional features so be it.

The Protrek brand has always been synonymous with the "Tool Concept" it would be a great shame to leave this linage behind after more than 20 years :think: I would never endorse the use of ABC watches for primary navigational, however if all else fails, they can be literally a life saver, so why not build the best...

@ frznmunky We are very much the minority here, although you never know with Casio, of recent, as they have brought some unexpected pieces to the market. Lets hope for 2010 and a Professional release for the Protrek line up. If they do, I will take it to the Tianshan (Celestial Mountains) ;-)


When you fly into Korla, (Xinjiang province western China) the crusing altitude is 26K, the Tianshan tops out at 24,406ft,
always makes for an interesting flight ;-)


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I certainly don`t have an issues with aesthetics of the new PRX-2000 & PRW-2000 I just wish that Casio would cater for the professional/enthusiast market as well, it`s not the cost, many will pay more for a professional product, the likes of dive computers etc.

Casio has the resources to design and manufacture a top class field ABC instrument, yet they show no intention of delivering such a product.
Personally I find myself more & more drawn to competitors products, simply due to the increased levels of accuracy & resolution. The harsh reality is anyone using an ABC in a field environment is always going to defer to the most reliable and better specified. If the future of Protrek/Pathfinder is simply to be one of high quality watches with some interesting additional features so be it.

The Protrek brand has always been synonymous with the "Tool Concept" it would be a great shame to leave this linage behind after more than 20 years :think: I would never endorse the use of ABC watches for primary navigational, however if all else fails, they can be literally a life saver, so why not build the best...

@ frznmunky We are very much the minority here, although you never know with Casio, of recent, as they have brought some unexpected pieces to the market. Lets hope for 2010 and a Professional release for the Protrek line up. If they do, I will take it to the Tianshan (Celestial Mountains) ;-)


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Nice Pics Q-6. What exactly is your job? :-d

I know we're a minority here, but in the global context? Maybe i'm thinking too much.

So what you're proposing is an aesthetic line and a separate working man's line?
 

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Nice Pics Q-6. What exactly is your job? :-d

I know we're a minority here, but in the global context? Maybe i'm thinking too much.

So what you're proposing is an aesthetic line and a separate working man's line?
Presently I am a Service Quality manager for a major drilling services provider, I ensure that we comply to industry & company standards, define & implement new processes, head up the investigation teams in the event of equipment failure. Much of todays drilling for hydrocarbons; the directional drilling, measuring & geological logging is done in real-time, resultantly the technologies employed need to be extremely sophisticated needing to deal with extremes of shock, vibration, heat pressure etc.

My role tends to change every 2-3 years as we rotate in and out of locations, so now you see how I get around ;-)


For your second question; Yes, I would like to see a Casio ABC focused on performance not aesthetics, it doesn't need to devolved from the Protrek/Pathfinder lines, more of a professional tool, for the mountaineer, hardcore outdoor enthusiast and of course those whose work places them in the extremes of nature.

The "PRX" nomenclature would have been perfect for a professional line, as opposed to what Casio have done, only installing a basic module into a much more expensive case, personally I see nothing high end with the new PRX line, other than the cost. Only once Casio start to equal and exceed some of the more serious tool/instrument focused competition, will they be taken seriously by as provider of professional ABC equipment by the community.


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