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Hello, and thank you for checking out my latest watch review! In this post, I will be looking at a Parnis 40mm Automatic, Sterile-Black, Submariner-style watch. Phew...that was a mouthful...





FYI...the 40mm Parnis Sub is available in many other combinations, colors, movements, etc. The version for review has a Chinese mechanical movement (possibly the MingZhu DG2813?), and was purchased via auction from ebay seller 'parnistime'. It is my understanding that the parnistime ebay store is directly owned/operated by Parnis (according to Parnis founder Avi Xiao). This is my first Parnis watch, and I have since received three others, with two more are on the way. It is safe to say I am somewhat impressed with the value of these timepieces.



^ Ebay listing Pic ^






^ And a few more of my pics ^


NOTE-Before I get to the review, a word about Parnis: There are definitely fans/followers of Parnis watches, both their original designs...as well as their 'homage' watches. On the opposite end of the spectrum, there are definitely those that despise Parnis, and many of the other Chinese manufacturers of Rolex/Panerai/Omega...fill in the blank...'homage' watches. I know this latter group does not consider them to be 'homages', but more like 'knock-offs'. I understand this...and it has been argued ad infinitum on many other threads, and many other forums. I do not wish to dive into another endless debate about this issue....but I digress. Alternatively, I will focus on my impressions of the watch, and conclude with a 1-5 rating in five different categories...Cost, Looks, Durability, Function & Comfort.

The specs as they appeared, verbatim, from the ebay listing:

40mm Parnis
Sapphire Crystal
Black Dial
White NO
Automatic Watch

Description
Size: 40mm x 14mm (Note: 12.5 actual)
Movement: Automatic
Functions: Hour, Minutes, Seconds, Date
Case: Brushed 316L Stainless Steel Case
Crystal: Sapphire Crystal
Dial: Black Dial with White Numbers
Bezel: Rotating Bezel
Strap:Stainless Steel Bracelet
Clasp Deployment Buckle


KronoReview:

The parnistime/ebay pictures certainly feature an attractive looking product. The 'sterile' (no manufacturer markings anywhere) Parnis is a Submariner-style, homage watch. This version, with a Chinese automatic movement, is typically priced between $80-$120 for buy-it-now listings, but can be had for considerably less on traditional auctions...if you are patient enough.




^ Along w/old-school pal, SRK flashlight ^






^ And with the beastly S70 flashlight ^




^ Ready to dive? Not so fast there. No rating listed on auction or watch ^


The Parnis Sub came in a padded/bubble-wrap envelope, sans retail-box, wrapped fairly securely and decently protected, and sealed inside a styrofoam shipping box. It was VERY well protected.





This Sub homage is just as nice looking in person.













CASE/CROWN/CASEBACK/LUGS: The 316L Stainless Steel case is 40mm, and the overall height is 12.5mm high (13.75mm including cyclops)...which is a tad smaller size that I am usually comfortable with. I prefer about a 43mm, but this 40mm wears a tad larger. Lug-to-lug is 48mm. The top of the case is brushed, and the sides are polished. The crown protector extends a bit at the 3 O'clock side of the watch, covering about 3/4s of the crown. The screw-down crown is properly knurled and easily gripped. There are no manufacturer markings on any of these parts. The screw-down case-back requires a Rolex-style tool to remove, or as in my case, I used the rubber-ball method to remove the back. This method took some time as the case-back must have been cranked-down pretty tightly at the factory. There was a single black o-ring seal. There is no depth rating on this watch, and no paperwork indicating appropriate diving depths...so I cannot recommend this watch for that. I do have a message into Parnis to see if they can shed some light on the depth rating, and will add that to the review if/when received.








BRACELET/CLASP: The solid link, 20mm Stainless Steel oyster-style bracelet has screw-pins on five links for easy adjustability. The end links are also solid. The center section of the bracelet is polished, and outside sections are brushed. The locking deployment clasp is of a decent quality, and has an unusual micro-adjustment that snaps or un-snaps to add or shorten the length a few millimeters. (Edit: Thanks to member HoosierTrooper for explaining that this is a Diver's Extension) There are also 2 additional micro-adjustment positions (by moving springbar) underneath the Diver's Extension. Again...there are absolutely no markings on the bracelet or clasp.











DIAL/HANDS/INDICES/FUNCTIONS: The black dial has traditional submariner indices. Inverted triangle at 12 O'clock, rectangles at 6 and 9, and circles on the remaining hours. Each indice is raised with a silver edge, and a white, lumed center. A date window at 3 O'clock takes the place of the missing indice, and is easily readable with the date-magnifier window. The date wheel is white, with black Arabic numerals. The hour-hand is a typical Mercedes-style, with the minute hand a much longer sword-style, and second hand more of a lollipop/pointer with a small lollipop counter-balance located on the opposite end. All hands are lumed, but could use a longer-lasting, better quality compound.








^ Hanging out in nature ^


MOVEMENT: Chinese automatic of unconfirmed origin (MingZhu?). It is not noisy in the least bit...and has so far kept exceptional time, averaging a 3 second loss per 24 hour period.











^ No markings on this movement ^


CRYSTAL: The sapphire crystal is flat, and has a cyclops (date-magnifier) at the 3 O'clock position. The crystal does extend above the bezel ever-so-slightly, perhaps .5mm. I cannot determine for certain if the crystal has an AR coating, but I believe it does not.


BEZEL: The black ceramic bezel matches the watch well and has an almost mirror-like finish to it. There is a GITD pip at 12, in a traditional, inverted triangle. Minute/second hash-marks from 12 to 3 only. After that, large, Arabic numerals at 10, 20, 30, 40 and 50...and larger hash-marks on the 5 minute marks. The bezel has a gear-tooth style surround, which is sufficiently grippy. For some odd reason, the bezel has 108 clicks. Clicks are solid, and there is absolutely no sloppiness whatsoever.





Looking pretty good on the wrist.





PROS:
Very accurate automatic movement, -3 sec/day.
Handsome Submariner looks.
Watch has a nice, solid, weighty feel to it.
Movement also hand-winds, and hacks.
Attractive fit and finish.
Protected and grippy screw-down crown.
Tight bezel with zero slop.
Date function.
Decent, screw-pin bracelet with solid end-links/bracelet links.
Clasp has micro-adjustment and Diver's Extension.
Flat Sapphire crystal with easy to read, magnified Date Window.
Lume on hour, minute, second hands and indices.
Rotor is smooth and barely audible.
Many color combos to choose from.

CONS:
Better quality lume needed.
No box or papers.
108 count click bezel.
No depth rating on watch or on ebay listing.

DIMENSIONS
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Width: 44.5mm (including crown)
Case Diameter: 40mm
Lug to lug: 48mm
Bracelet width: 20mm
Crystal: 30.5mm
Overall Height (top of crystal to caseback): 12.5mm (13.75mm including cyclops)
Weight: 150gms

RATING:
Cost: 5
Looks: 5
Durability: 4
Function: 4
Comfort: 4
Average: 4.4/5















CONCLUSION: The Parnis Sub is a very nice looking and nice feeling watch. While I can't recommend it for diving, the watch wears well, and looks much more expensive that it costs. This is the fourth Parnis I have owned, and none of them have cratered, nor lost any functionality. Some other reviews have questioned the long-term build quality (as do I), but this is a story that only time will tell. Nevertheless...so far, so good on this fantastic, value-minded Submariner homage. Overall, considering the initial accuracy, looks and minimal cost, this is an exceptional deal.

Thanks,
krono
 

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<br><br>As an example of the color variations available, here is the same Parnis model with yellow accents on the indices and bezel. This version is on its way to me, and I will try to update this thread with my own pics later. <br type="_moz">
 

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Edit: Figured out how to add it. Changed my compatibility view...everything works much better!

I tried adding a lume shot...but for some reason, I can't edit the original post/review. Anyone know why?

Nevertheless...here's the pic:


 

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I appreciate everyone that took time to check out my review.

Watch reviews are somewhat new to me. My review background has been mostly of flashlights. I review them on other gear-related forums, where I would typically receive a great deal of responses/feedback etc. Flashlights are a huge deal to me, but so are watches...so I thought I would branch out...so to speak. WUS seemed to be about the best place to do that. However, this forum is obviously a different atmosphere than what I am used to, and I am quite curious to see how this review is received here.

Because of the lack of responses, I can't help but wonder...am I missing-the-mark somewhere?. So, I would like to open up this thread to some constructive criticism. Are there too many pics? Are the pics just not that great...or interesting? Are there to many submariner homage watches out there? Do WUS members generally reject the brand Parnis...or perhaps Chinese watches? Too long? Too boring? What am I missing?

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Nice review.

No offence, but I think due to the branding, Parnis, it might not attract as much viewers as you would like here. :)
 
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Nice review.

No offence, but I think due to the branding, Parnis, it might not attract as much viewers as you would like here. :)
 
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Nice review.

No offence, but I think due to the branding, Parnis, it might not attract as much viewers as you would like here. :)
None taken.

I'm not particularly keen on the name Parnis myself. I know there are people that don't like that they copy the Rolex design.

They do have some original designs that I think are interesting...one of which I will review in the near future (testing right now). And quality is far above many of the other Chinese brands I have reviewed.

I reckon that I am really looking for more constructive criticism of the review itself so that my subsequent reviews are improved.

Thanks for the feedback!

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Great review and photos! Well done Sir. Thank you for sharing... the bezel clicks' count is so funny... I've never counted any of mine... but all of them are gone now.

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Very nicely written review. I have the exact same watch, picked up a second hand one on f29 for a whopping $40 a while back and really enjoy wearing it. Mine is exceptionally accurate as well, gaining 1-2 seconds a day. I have used the Parnis bracelet on my 8926 because I think it's better than the stock Invicta bracelet. One thing you didn't mention is that the bracelet has micro adjustments besides the divers extension, at least mine does.
 

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No micro-adjust on mine. :-(

Is the flip-out adjustment (what I referred to in the interview as a "micro-adjustment that snaps or un-snaps to add or shorten the length a few millimeters") called a divers extension?
 

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No micro-adjust on mine. :-(

Is the flip-out adjustment (what I referred to in the interview as a "micro-adjustment that snaps or un-snaps to add or shorten the length a few millimeters") called a divers extension?
Yes, I believe so. Here's a picture of the inside of the clasp of mine, you can see the two holes. There is a spring bar that when depressed allows you to move that end of the bracelet to whichever sets of holes gives the best fit. I don't know if Parnis sources their bracelets from different suppliers but this is the one that was on the watch when I got it, and I've seen other owners talk about the micro-adjustments as well, but it's possible that some don't have it.

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I am familiar with that type of adjustment, which mine does not have.

This one has a unique link on one end of the clasp that folds in half, or un-folds. You can snap it together for shorter length...or un-snap it for longer length, without depressing any spring-bars. That is what I thought you were referring to. I will try to take a pic of this mechanism and post it in the next few days.
 

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Wait a miniute. With the bracelet open, and the last link un-snapped, it pretty much looks like yours...so I do think it has some micro-adjustment afterall. It is underneath the folded link. Do you understand what I am trying to say...lol. That last link on yours looks the same. It should fold in half. Does it?
 

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Wait a miniute. With the bracelet open, and the last link un-snapped, it pretty much looks like yours...so I do think it has some micro-adjustment afterall. It is underneath the folded link. Do you understand what I am trying to say...lol. That last link on yours looks the same. It should fold in half. Does it?
Yep, mine folds just like yours. In my picture it's open. It's my understanding that the divers extension gives the wearer the ability to open the bracelet up a little so that it will fit over a wet suit a little easier.
 

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OK. First watch of mine that has this feature...nice! Learn something new everyday around here! :)
 

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Thank you for taking the time to review and post pictures. I've been eye-balling some parnis sub homages myself recently. Trying to scratch the annual 'I want a sub' itch. Lol. I'm glad someone took the time to confirm what I was suspecting that the Parnis is a well made budget friendly time piece.

Question: after a few months with the piece have any of your thoughts changed?
 

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Thank you for taking the time to review and post pictures. I've been eye-balling some parnis sub homages myself recently. Trying to scratch the annual 'I want a sub' itch. Lol. I'm glad someone took the time to confirm what I was suspecting that the Parnis is a well made budget friendly time piece.

Question: after a few months with the piece have any of your thoughts changed?
If anything, my thoughts may be improving. I have banged them on multiple doorknobs (this seems to be a problem for me...lol), and nary a scratch..and still very accurate.

I own 6 Parnis watches now, so I guess that makes me impressed.
 

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If anything, my thoughts may be improving. I have banged them on multiple doorknobs (this seems to be a problem for me...lol), and nary a scratch..and still very accurate.

I own 6 Parnis watches now, so I guess that makes me impressed.
So glad to hear you are happy! Who would you recommend purchasing from if you don't mind sharing.
 
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