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I have a Canon DSLR with a standard 18-55 lens (or whatever you call it) and I'd like to take some macro shots (not looking for extreme close-ups, but I do need quality).

My question is: would these things work, and do I attach them at the end of my 18-55 ?

http://www..........s.com/item/Andoer-52mm-Macro-Close-Up-Filter-Set-1-2-4-10-with-Pouch-for-Nikon-D7200/32258785295.html?spm=2114.01010108.3.341.S4lOkn&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_9,searchweb201602_3_301_10034_507_10032_10020_10017_10005_10006_10021_10022_401_10018_10019,searchweb201603_8&btsid=55671c72-dcc2-4806-bcd1-943a73da6bad

Obviously I'm looking for something cheap as I don't want to invest much, for the moment. Should I be looking for something else ? Like a bigger macro lens that fits directly into the camera and not the 18-55 ?

There is also something like this... Not sure which is better for me.

http://www..........s.com/item/Cmaera-Leans-58MM-0-45x-Wide-Angle-Macro-Lens-for-Canon-EOS-350D-400D-450D-500D/32401350818.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.1.tw1bq6&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_9,searchweb201602_3_301_10034_507_10032_10020_10017_10005_10006_10021_10022_401_10018_10019_100,searchweb201603_8&btsid=81709f4b-d507-45b9-98d1-ca2af54c471b
 

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dedicated macro lenses are way better than any lens attachment. With the screw on things you'll be wasting your money. Do it right with a lens. I use Nikon but a great entry level macro for Canon is the Tokina 100mm f2.8 macro. This photo was a Nikon and a 60mm Nikon micro

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Roger that, so dedicated macro lens rather than these addons. Are there any cheap under 50$ ones ?

Well, a quick search decided that I must stick to these extension rings or whatever they're called. Back to the drawing board...
 

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I should be able to get a good price for a pre-owned one. Other than the fact that it should not be scratched do I need to be cautious about anything else ?
 

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Yes KEH here in the states has some of the best used equipment in the world for sale. Most professionals buy and sell there. There rating on used equipment is very liberal. When it says good condition it'll look almost brand new. Fine and extra fine would actually look brand new. I have been using them my entire career.
 

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Also, it's important to know whether your camera has the focusing motor in the body or does it rely on a motor in the lens. I use Nikon and some of their entry level cameras omit the motor in the body and rely on one in the lens to focus. It makes the lens a little more costly. I'm not sure this is something Canon does but it would be very important to know before you buy an auto focus lens
 

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Hi Cleef,

I describe my experience of macro filters and extension tubes here:
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f109/favorite-macro-lens-watch-photography-957136-6.html#post7931966

(There's also lots of discussion about Macro lenses)

My summary is that:
Macro filters were of some limited use when cropped for centre.
Extension tubes on the other hand did not interfere with light path and I found them reasonably ok (make sure you buy the ones with pass-through electronics and beware the really cheap ones with loose connections)

However, once I'd experimented a little with these, I ended up buying a Macro lens anyway :) And the difference is noticeable.
 

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I bought a cheap ($13?) adapter off amazon that allows me to mount old Manual Focus Lenses onto my Sony Alpha body.

I bought a 1:1 50mm Minolta Macro lens for like $65 on Ebay. I use it to take photos like:

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When compared to spending hundreds of dollars on modern macro lenses, for a subject as stationary as Watches, just didn't make sense.
 

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Most modern cams have high megapixel. You can always crop them for website use. There no need for a macro lens. The 18-55 is very sharp in the middle across the 30-45mm range.
 

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Most modern cams have high megapixel. You can always crop them for website use. There no need for a macro lens. The 18-55 is very sharp in the middle across the 30-45mm range.
Please show me a macro shot you cropped using an 18-55.

I'm sorry but the photo quality you get from fixed 1:2 or 1:1 macro lenses is so much nicer than the variables. I know I posted this in another thread, but the following was taken with a 50mm 1:1 Manual Macro lens on an adapter and my 12MP Sony Alpha NEX-F3. Both bought second hand. I have about $250 in this setup.

These are the Un-Edited JPG Images.

http://i.imgur.com/4rslHES.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QCjPykX.jpg

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And a CROP from the last image where you can see SuperLuminova that splattered into the bezel slots at the 1 and 2 minute marks.

http://i.imgur.com/wAPluri.jpg?1

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Take a look at reversing rings. They are an okay, cheap alternative. Basically you mount the lens on the body backward and it's like when you flip binoculars around, but the opposite. You'll need a lens with manual aperture control.
 

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Take a look at reversing rings. They are an okay, cheap alternative. Basically you mount the lens on the body backward and it's like when you flip binoculars around, but the opposite. You'll need a lens with manual aperture control.
I know this is an Old-School trick BUT... Really? If you're going to have to buy an Old manual lens anyway, why not just buy an old manual MACRO lens???
 

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I bought the 100mm Canon Macro for about $150 CAD - just scour the used market, like Craigslist or something similar, or eBay. You need a bit of patience, but it's surprising how many are around.

I also tried a magnifying lens attachment, but found it pretty useless. Waste of $75. You can get a decent shot out of it, it's just tricky.
 

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In a sense, you never "save" money buying cheap add ons or lenses because most of us end up wanting the better option and owning the cheap version only highlights that desire.

That said, you can have fun with some of the add ons. Twenty years I spent a lot of time shooting through magnifying glasses, loupes and all kinds of things to get interesting macro shots. So play with it but keep in mind, investing in good glass is always a good investment.

And no, cheap macros usually aren't worth it.
 
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