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Master of G Mudmaster gwg2000 owners club & 1k owners too club.

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A place to show off the new carbon core mudmaster gwg2000, originally I was in the " I'll pass camp " but then a few videos on YouTube later and kaboom ordered on sunday through amazon using a Japanese market dealer & it arrived today.


Immediate thoughts are

More comfortable on the wrist.
Better strap construction.
To my eye it seems like larger font size in display slot.
Sapphire glass always seems way better to me then hardplex imho
Seems like a cleaner dial layout.


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Just landed. Love the watch but slightly annoyed I didn’t get the fancy Master of G packaging. Just got one of those basic boxes you get with the $150 G’s. Not sure if the eBay seller (from Japan) short-changed me or whether that’s normal in certain situations.

Any thoughts on whether I need to follow up with the seller? Don’t want to get too bogged down on a smaller issue but if I’m entitled to it why not?

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Merv, did the watch come with a tag verifying that it's a Japanese region watch ("JF")? If so, I think it's worth following up with the seller. I remember something like this happened to @Time4Playnow a few years back when he purchased a Pro Trek Manaslu from a Japanese seller and the watch arrived without the trademark green lacquer wood Manaslu box. T4P inquired about it and the seller shipped him the correct box. Definitely worth it in his case.
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Merv, did the watch come with a tag verifying that it's a Japanese region watch ("JF")? If so, I think it's worth following up with the seller. I remember something like this happened to @Time4Playnow a few years back when he purchased a Pro Trek Manaslu from a Japanese seller and the watch arrived without the trademark green lacquer wood Manaslu box. T4P inquired about it and the seller shipped him the correct box. Definitely worth it in his case.
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Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated. (y)

Here are a couple of pics. The tags and manual look like the JDM version that I got with other recent purchases from Japan, but unlike my D-Frog and Rangeman, I didn’t get the Master of G packaging.

Just want to confirm I’m not missing any logical reason for this…..you think worth querying seller?

I noticed that his sales ad had only generic Mudmaster pics when I ordered it, but after he ordered at his end and got it in stock he updated with actual watch pics. His listing said only one available, so his updated pics were obviously of my watch. No big deal, I’m not concerned, but thought I’d point out that I’m 99% sure he took my watch out of the packaging to photograph.

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Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated. (y)

Here are a couple of pics. The tags and manual look like the JDM version that I got with other recent purchases from Japan, but unlike my D-Frog and Rangeman, I didn’t get the Master of G packaging.

Just want to confirm I’m not missing any logical reason for this…..you think worth querying seller?

I noticed that his sales ad had only generic Mudmaster pics when I ordered it, but after he ordered at his end and got it in stock he updated with actual watch pics. His listing said only one available, so his updated pics were obviously of my watch. No big deal, I’m not concerned, but thought I’d point out that I’m 99% sure he took my watch out of the packaging to photograph.

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Yeah, looks like they definitely switched the packaging on you. I have a feeling that quite a few of these Japan-based sellers do this to pay less on shipping. Honestly, these boxes just sit in a closet for me so I don't really care about the packaging as long as the watch is flawless, but it could become an issue if you ever decide to sell the watch. I would inquire about it just to see what they say. Anyways, beautiful watch regardless, Merv.
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Yeah, looks like they definitely switched the packaging on you. I have a feeling that quite a few of these Japan-based sellers do this to pay less on shipping. Honestly, these boxes just sit in a closet for me so I don't really care about the packaging as long as the watch is flawless, but it could become an issue if you ever decide to sell the watch. I would inquire about it just to see what they say. Anyways, beautiful watch regardless, Merv.
I feel the same as you…box will be stored away and not matter but in the off-chance I decide to sell I don’t want to deal with explaining it to a non-believing buyer.
I’ll chase up the seller. Thanks again.
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Sorry no image.. The photo I saw was through a Dealer


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What a tease!!!!

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Just landed. Love the watch but slightly annoyed I didn’t get the fancy Master of G packaging. Just got one of those basic boxes you get with the $150 G’s. Not sure if the eBay seller (from Japan) short-changed me or whether that’s normal in certain situations.

Any thoughts on whether I need to follow up with the seller? Don’t want to get too bogged down on a smaller issue but if I’m entitled to it why not?

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Yeah that's odd , like as if the seller wanted to pocket the better packaging... on the plus side you now own a watch that at least confirmed improved valuation is 180+$ then " the others " ... but yeah I'd contact the seller & say nice try bruh... send the real packaging.

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Congrats I see you are in the USA dis you have to pay custom or duty fees? Did you get the Japanese model 1A3JF ? What difference with American model if any ? Also is packaging different ?
When I order from abroad around 99.99% of the time there is no duties asked for by carrier .. now I'm going around knocking on any wood I can find cause I'm sure with Obiden Inflation they will be looking for any spare change they can get ahold of. " free **** " for others isnt going to pay for itself. right

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Yeah that's odd , like as if the seller wanted to pocket the better packaging... on the plus side you now own a watch that at least confirmed improved valuation is 180+$ then " the others " ... but yeah I'd contact the seller & say nice try bruh... send the real packaging.

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Yeah sent him a message explaining and asking for proper box. Then sent a second message with photos of what the box looks like. It was late Friday in Aus & Japan, so probably won’t get a reply until Monday.

EDIT - Update early hours Saturday morning / Friday evening. Seller sent a message apologising profusely saying product was not shipped to them with the correct case. They’ve promised to rectify, so all good for me, I’m happy.
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In the US no import tax under $800 value so no vat on my gwg 2 k but had to pay on my Stowa which came from Germany. That may be changing if congress bumps up the minimum.
Just arrived. Haven’t set the time just yet, but seems like a nice piece!!




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Unfortunately I'm struggling with the comfort of my new sand coloured MM. I'm in between holes frustratingly. If I use 4th from last hole it flops around too much and is only good when weather or wrist gets very warm (so no good 90% of time). If I use 5th from last hole then it's snug to the point that it will leave multiple in-print marks all over my wrist after not too long (that's just in moderate weather....not a good fit at all if warm).

On top of the between holes dilemma I'm finding that the wings often pinch my hair....at least I think it's the wings that are causing it (pretty sure). My wrist is 7.25 inches and I suspect the wings are more beneficial for guys with smaller wrists as it helps to bring in the lugs and reduce excess space under lugs. For my wrist size I don't particularly need them for that purpose.

My recent D-Frog fits beautifully at all times on 6th from last hole and I never need to adjust. Unfortunately with the new GWG-2K I'm already considering flipping for the 1k. I have read a few guys saying they're in between holes on 2k but good on 1k, and have also read guys with 7.25 inch wrist saying 1k was very comfortable. I'm seriously thinking of going in that direction and flipping for the 1k.
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Unfortunately I'm struggling with the comfort of my new sand coloured MM. I'm in between holes frustratingly. If I use 4th from last hole it flops around too much and is only good when weather or wrist gets very warm (so no good 90% of time). If I use 5th from last hole then it's snug to the point that it will leave multiple inprint marks all over my wrist after not too long (that's just in moderate weather....not a good fit at all if warm).

On top of the between holes dilemna I'm finding that the wings often pinch my hair....at least I think it's the wings that are causing it (pretty sure). My wrist is 7.25 inches and I suspect the wings are more beneficial for guys with smaller wrists as it helps to bring in the lugs and reduce excess space under lugs. For my wrist size I don't particularly need them for that purpose.

My recent D-Frog fits beautifully at all times on 6th from last hole and I never need to adjust. Unfortunately with the new GWG-2K I'm already considering flipping for the 1k. I have read a few guys saying they're in between holes on 2k but good on 1k, and have also ready guys with 7.25 inch wrist saying 1k was very comfortable. I'm seriously thinking of going in that direction and flipping for the 1k.
This appears to be a common complaint about this watch. That's a shame because they look quite nice. I guess I'll have to try before I buy on these.
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Can any 1k owners who have wrist around 7.25 advise whether they have any hair-pull issues. Or even if your wrist is nowhere near that size and you experience hair pull would appreciate your thoughts.
Just got back from the mall after trying a GWG-1000-1A3.

It felt like it wore a bit better than the 2k but honestly wasn’t enough time to tell. Had it on wrist very briefly. I did look at the wings under the case and for some reason it felt like they were spaced further apart than the 2k which would be better for me. That doesn’t seem to make sense intuitively though because I believe lug to lug is longer on 2k, so you’d think wing spacing would be greater on the 2k.

The other dilemma is which 1k to get if I go that way. They had the 1A3 and the 1A next to each other on display. I like the green band, but prefer the cream indices and hands on 1A.

Decisions, decisions.
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Unfortunately I'm struggling with the comfort of my new sand coloured MM. I'm in between holes frustratingly. If I use 4th from last hole it flops around too much and is only good when weather or wrist gets very warm (so no good 90% of time). If I use 5th from last hole then it's snug to the point that it will leave multiple in-print marks all over my wrist after not too long (that's just in moderate weather....not a good fit at all if warm).

On top of the between holes dilemma I'm finding that the wings often pinch my hair....at least I think it's the wings that are causing it (pretty sure). My wrist is 7.25 inches and I suspect the wings are more beneficial for guys with smaller wrists as it helps to bring in the lugs and reduce excess space under lugs. For my wrist size I don't particularly need them for that purpose.

My recent D-Frog fits beautifully at all times on 6th from last hole and I never need to adjust. Unfortunately with the new GWG-2K I'm already considering flipping for the 1k. I have read a few guys saying they're in between holes on 2k but good on 1k, and have also read guys with 7.25 inch wrist saying 1k was very comfortable. I'm seriously thinking of going in that direction and flipping for the 1k.
Ever considered getting yourself a punch set? I've punched new holes in leather straps a few times. I also had an incredibly comfortable tropic style strap where the perfect fit was between two holes... so I "extended" the hole that was slightly too tight.
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Ever considered getting yourself a punch set? I've punched new holes in leather straps a few times. I also had an incredibly comfortable tropic style strap where the perfect fit was between two holes... so I "extended" the hole that was slightly too tight.
Thanks for the suggestion...interesting idea about extending. This would have to be one of the most rigid straps I've come across so would take a bit of work. Bit nervous about butchering it and then totally ruining re-sale value if I had to go down that path.
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Just got back from the mall after trying a GWG-1000-1A3.

It felt like it wore a bit better than the 2k but honestly wasn’t enough time to tell. Had it on wrist very briefly. I did look at the wings under the case and for some reason it felt like they were spaced further apart than the 2k which would be better for me. That doesn’t seem to make sense intuitively though because I believe lug to lug is longer on 2k, so you’d think wing spacing would be greater on the 2k.

The other dilemma is which 1k to get if I go that way. They had the 1A3 and the 1A next to each other on display. I like the green band, but prefer the cream indices and hands on 1A.

Decisions, decisions.
Get them both used! 2 for the price for a new one!
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Thanks for the suggestion...interesting idea about extending. This would have to be one of the most rigid straps I've come across so would take a bit of work. Bit nervous about butchering it and then totally ruining re-sale value if I had to go down that path.
Totally get it. Just an idea. Sets are pretty cheap on Amazon if you get curious. I've got oval and circular sets, I'm sure theres all sorts of shapes.
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Can any 1k owners who have wrist around 7.25 advise whether they have any hair-pull issues. Or even if your wrist is nowhere near that size and you experience hair pull would appreciate your thoughts.
7.5 and shown which strap hole it rests on in above images. If they cant be seen without too much scrolling up I'll post these . In the end the 1k I found to still be all that & a bag of chips and although the carbon is neat and as discussed by many that the screen is better visible in most angles on the 2k ... I did the unthinkable and actually sent mine down the road. That's why I preemptively changed the name to 2k & 1k owners group lol.

I think those who adore the 2k probably fit in some perfect strap hole that just fits all nice and comfy cozy and to them I say congrats sincerely. Had casio added just a thing or two new .. maybe bluetooth sync with some apps to quickly set trip alarms or who knows something then I would have just kept mine ... but that's just me.


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Get them both used! 2 for the price for a new one!
I concur in regards to 1ks, can you truly ever own too many ?

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