Not sure but interested to see how they work when the bracelet arrives!
Mkii Project 300 & Forstner President (1450) Seamaster Bracelet
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Hey Everyone!
So, full disclosure, I am a big fan of Forstner Bracelets and wear allot of my watches with their Stretch Rivet bracelet that has straight end links. I actually wear it a lot on my P300. It is light, stretches and carries the vintage vibe.
Forstner has released 2 versions of the Omega President bracelet for both pre and post 2018 versions of the Seamaster. It has fitted end links and two stretch links near the clasp, which I am definitely here for!
The big question is, are the P300 lug dimensions close enough to the pre 2018 Seamaster lug dimensions for it to fit?
I ordered one to find out, but was curious if anyone had tried this or just knows off hand if it will fit or not!
Thoughts?
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So, full disclosure, I am a big fan of Forstner Bracelets and wear allot of my watches with their Stretch Rivet bracelet that has straight end links. I actually wear it a lot on my P300. It is light, stretches and carries the vintage vibe.
Forstner has released 2 versions of the Omega President bracelet for both pre and post 2018 versions of the Seamaster. It has fitted end links and two stretch links near the clasp, which I am definitely here for!
The big question is, are the P300 lug dimensions close enough to the pre 2018 Seamaster lug dimensions for it to fit?
I ordered one to find out, but was curious if anyone had tried this or just knows off hand if it will fit or not!
Thoughts?
Forstner President (1450) For Pre-2018 Omega Seamaster
Forstner's Take on the 1450 Bracelet The vintage Omega 1450 Bracelet has been famously lauded as "one of the best Speedmaster bracelets that has been produced," and is now routinely dubbed the "holy grail" of Omega bracelets. It is substantial, extremely comfortable, and well-engineered. With...
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I have a bunch of the Forstner Stretch Rivet bracelets in different sizes and absolutely love them! I should have the President Bracelet by end of week. I will let everyone know how it goes!
Expandable bracelets are comfy (typically ugly aside from these in my opinion) but how do they handle heavier watches? I have one for a prop watch I created, as it was what was used originally and if you do anything too aggressive, the watch spins and feels like it might come off!! Same actually with the MN Original elastic straps actually. Super comfy but not for heavy activity. How do you find these bracelets for that? Part of this might be that I’m left handed and wear my watch on the left. They get a little more “activity” maybe
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I think the P300 is a pretty good test for this, it is about as big/heavy of a watch that I will wear. With that said if I do something fairly aggressive like swing a hammer or throw something the watch head will shift, but it really just moves off center on my wrist and if I do a bit of a hand roll it will reseat itself. I have never had the watch completely rotate on my wrist. The Forstners definitely need more force to stretch them versus a vintage style stretch bracelet.Expandable bracelets are comfy (typically ugly aside from these in my opinion) but how do they handle heavier watches? I have one for a prop watch I created, as it was what was used originally and if you do anything too aggressive, the watch spins and feels like it might come off!! Same actually with the MN Original elastic straps actually. Super comfy but not for heavy activity. How do you find these bracelets for that? Part of this might be that I’m left handed and wear my watch on the left. They get a little more “activity” maybe
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The big caveat is that I wear it on my left wrist and I am right handed so it is less of an issue.
I mostly wear the stretch rivet on my vintage watches, most of which are sub 38mm and fairly light. For those it is not an issue at all.
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Received the flat link today. Now, this was never meant for any MKII I own but since it has 20mm endlinks I figured I’d try it out. I can report that they do fit the Key Wests lugs. The curve isn’t a perfect match but pretty close. The real “issue” is with the finish. The polished outer portions, to me, just doesnt go with the brushed top portion of the KW case. Also, the lugs are much too tall for this bracelet. Again, wasn’t really meant for it but fun to give it a go.
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Nice!!Received the flat link today. Now, this was never meant for any MKII I own but since it has 20mm endlinks I figured I’d try it out. I can report that they do fit the Key Wests lugs. The curve isn’t a perfect match but pretty close. The real “issue” is with the finish. The polished outer portions, to me, just doesnt go with the brushed top portion of the KW case. Also, the lugs are much too tall for this bracelet. Again, wasn’t really meant for it but fun to give it a go.![]()
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I am pretty sure that is the same endlinks on the President so the flat link should fit the P300 and Vice Versa
Wow that looks great!Woot, Woot!! It Fits!!
I am very Happy to report that the Forstner “President (1450) For Pre-2018 Omega Seamaster” bracelet does in fact fit the Mkii Project 300!! With 8 micro adjusts and 2 Stretch links at the clasp this is a whole new level of comfort!
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I’d love to see more pics.
Do the end links fit solidly on the case?
They are pretty much a perfect fit! I will get some more pictures from different angles. Super happy with it!Wow that looks great!
I’d love to see more pics.
Do the end links fit solidly on the case?
That’s great to hear
That would be great
I suppose this would also mean the forstner flat link for pre 2018 SMPs would work too…
That is the assumption I am making too, I am going to probably grab the flat link at some point too.That’s great to hear
That would be great
I suppose this would also mean the forstner flat link for pre 2018 SMPs would work too…
From chatting with a rep/owner at Forstner, the end links would be the same. All were designed to fit the Speedmaster, so if the presidential fit the the SM300 the rest should as well.
The flat link is a “delicate” bracelet. It’s profile is slight, and I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that is, well, flat
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The flat link is a “delicate” bracelet. It’s profile is slight, and I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that is, well, flat
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Aha! I have just been looking into the same thing but with the contemporary Flat Link bracelet. Pleased to discover that the seamster end link will fit.Woot, Woot!! It Fits!!
I am very Happy to report that the Forstner “President (1450) For Pre-2018 Omega Seamaster” bracelet does in fact fit the Mkii Project 300!! With 8 micro adjusts and 2 Stretch links at the clasp this is a whole new level of comfort!
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@dcam1075 Do you have any more photos of how the link fits please?
Thanks.
--Fitting the Forstner “President (1450) For Pre-2018 Omega Seamaster" to the Project 300 with Project 300 end links--
--- Howdy All,
A while back I mentioned in a post that I had mated the Forstner bracelet to the Original Equipment MKII endlinks for the Project 300.
I also commented that I had taken some pictures, but was certain that they were on the 'big computer' back in Oregon....
- But, it turns out I still had the 'originals' on my phone...
......I 'Found' them earlier today when I was looking for something else. (Old Age is Hell, folks....)
In the first photo I show basically what I needed for the ready-to-fit result. On the standard MKII Project 300 bracelet, the screwed pin that fastens the end-link to the rest of the bracelet has a fairly small diameter.
The link on the end of the Forstner bracelet has a larger-diameter hole sized for the springbar-to-end-link-to-watch attachment.
So if we assemble this as it is, we end up with a very loose, sloppy connection that simply doesn't work.
What to do? How about a spacer tube to reduce the diameter of the hole so that the MKII screwed pin fits tightly and properly?
In the second photo, I show the tools I used for this project; a small Swiss pattern knife-file, used for cutting the tubing; another small, very fine-toothed Swiss pattern file for smoothing the cut ends and nicely smoothing any burrs, and a small pin vise that is sized to hold the tube that will be cut down to the proper dimension in order to fit inside the hole in the end of the Fostrner link, but also fit into the center recess on the MKII end-link, in turn allowing the small-diameter screwed pin to fit properly.
In picture 3, we can see the tube held in the pin vise, ready to measure the proper length in order to fit correctly. So what is the source of that tube? It is a spring bar that has had the pins and internal spring removed. It works out that the internal diameter was exactly the correct size to allow the MKII pin to fit through it properly. Actually, it was one of those "quick-release" spring bars that we see commonly supplied these days in a lot of straps. I don't use them, and the internals can be removed easily by twisting that little handle-knob off with a small pair of pliers.
In Picture 4, I had already cut off the portion with the window; then, cut to proper length, then clean up the rough ends with the fine file, and...
We end up with the spacer-tube we can see here in picture 5.
And there you are...ready to assemble with the screwed pin and some blue Lok-Tite, and after, fit to the watch case.
I really like the way the standard MKII end-links fit (Perfectly!) in between the lugs on the Project 300 watch case and really emphasize the shape of the lyre-lugs, and compared to the 'flatter-appearing' 'no-relief' links on the Forstner.
I just think this arrangement has a better appearance. As a bonus, it makes the bracelet effectively a bit longer also.
And now, a couple more photos of the result....
Thanks for 'watching'....
Best Wishes, and Enjoy Your Time....
Edited 01282023 -- (Added a photo and descriptive text)
Here is another photo of the parts laid out with the dimensions of the "spacer tube" included -
As I mentioned above, the "spacer-tube" is basically another spring bar that has had the 'guts removed' and the body cut to length in order to fit within the mating opening of the MKII OEM end link (next to the watch body). The pin shown is the screwed pin that fastens the MKII end link to the MKII bracelet... It all goes together nicely and the fit is comparable to the amount of play present in the Forstner bracelet links.
And, I can't pass up the opportunity to provide a couple more photos of this "fantastic mod"....(IMHO)
I really think the shape and fit of the OEM MKII end link is superior to the one provided with the Forstner.... But the Forstner bracelet is very comfortable, and the profile of the links at the ends of the bracelet are a much more 'elegant' match-up to the watch case...(IMHO)
I mean, after all, the MKII end link was developed exclusively for the MKII watch case...
My Best to All...
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