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Hi guys, I have an offer to purchase this early Doxa-





and cannot find much info on this model.
Seller says its from the 50's or '60's, which I initially found difficult to accept, as it looked '80's or '90's to me.
However a knowledgable member on another forum assures me its from the 50's and prior to the sub 300 series.

Movement is marked Doxa, as is the caseback.
I know all the good info comes from this place, so what can the Doxa experts here tell me about this?
I have the watch in hand if we need to investigate it further.
Thanks guys,
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Hello Offshore,

the watch is from the early 60´s and is a legit DOXA Diver.

It was probably the first DOXA Dive watch model produced prior to the SUB Series.

You can find some older Info I´ve posted a few years ago on this model via the link below:

https://www.watchuseek.com/f34/doxa-pre-sub-300-a-189324.html


Additional actual information is that there have been not only three dial layouts but definetly four maybe even more time will tell.

At the moment we know of these four Dial Variants which where marked as following:

1st: DOXA


2nd: DOXA

AUTOMATIC


3rd: DOXA

21 JEWELS
AUTOMATIC


4th: DOXA
AUTOMATIC

SHARKHUNTER
SUPER WATERPROOF
300 METERS


If you buy it don´t do to much to the watch maybe only have it cleaned by a professional watchmaker and save the nice patina of the lume, NOS parts aren´t availlable anyways.

Hope the information was helpful.

Regards Bernie
 

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the case reminds me of a speedy case.
Had Omega released a case like this, at the time this DOXA was being made (early '60s), or did Omega's design come later? I'm not really that familiar with vintage Omega.
 

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Yes, Ty. In 1964 Omega released a new case design Seamaster, SM300.
Probably two watches had the same case manufacturer.
Here are two very educative links, A Quick Guide: The Omega Seamaster 300 including Military watches. and A History of the Omega Seamaster 3oo.
Dimitris, thanks for the link, that was super helpful. Based on the article, the Omega ref. 165.024 from 1964 is extremely similar to the vintage DOXA diver. Look at the way both cases are cut so that the crowns recess into the cases. You might be right, they very well could have had the same casemaker, or what if Omega actually made these divers for DOXA? Definitely some interesting early history here.



 

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Gents,
Thanks so much for your informed views!
I think this has to be another one for the storage box, especially if its as rare as this!
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It's very common (and cost effective) in Swiss watch industry the "lego" production. Specialized suppliers for every part of the watch.
It would be very interesting if we have a photo from inside caseback (Bernie?) to see manufacterer's stamp.
 

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It's very common (and cost effective) in Swiss watch industry the "lego" production. Specialized suppliers for every part of the watch.
It would be very interesting if we have a photo from inside caseback (Bernie?) to see manufacterer's stamp.
I hear you Dimitris, and you're right, it's very common (or was very common) to buy all components from specialist manufacturers, and assemble a complete watch. I also know that Jenny was the casemaker for the early Subs, so I wonder if Jenny was the casemaker for the 300m DOXA as well as the Seamaster 300? That would be some cool linked heritage if it were.

Hopefully Bernie will check back in, and shed some more light on this mystery.
 

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Update: I just heard from DOXA, and that catalog is from 1963. That would put this model on the market one year before the Omega. Still hoping Bernie will check in.
 

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I do know that in earlier days, Jenny had purchased cases from Squale, but ceased due to the requirement by Squale to have their insignia on the dial of all watches using their case. Von Buren was most insistent on this.
So it is likely that Jenny onsold cases to Doxa.(as there wouldn't have been a lot of manufacturers of water resistant cases at that time) and even less who would sell to the opposition. Rolex would definetly keep their product in house, maybe less so a company like Omega?

An interesting reflection oh history, anyway.

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That's a nice of history there, sir. My advice? Don't relegate that beauty to the inside of a dark box. It needs fresh air weekly, if not daily.

Life is too short to wear a boring watch.
 

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That's a nice of history there, sir. My advice? Don't relegate that beauty to the inside of a dark box. It needs fresh air weekly, if not daily.

Life is too short to wear a boring watch.
Fascinating info guys! I couldn't agree more.....appreciate your vintage gem by wearing it :-!.
 
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