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Congratulations Backer! The Janata is a classic. Since January 2010, after I bought my first HMT-a Pilot, I have retired all other watches including a few Seiko 5s . I wear only HMT. Affordable with a huge variety.

You know, just one HMT is never enough as you will soon discover.

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thanks hari, yeah you are right..i am after pilot now..unfortunately its out of stock everywhere :(

between..orient is a class apart in affordable category, total in house movement, good classy finish..the day date which i own is excellent for the price
HMT movements are made in-house too. I am yet to try an Orient, a good friend has been offering me a Mako, but I have skinny arms. The HMT automatics are excellent actually, they rarely need to be regulated, at least in my experience with more than 10 different models that I have... Some of my handwound watches have needed regulation which the Mumbai HMT service does an excellent job of. Have a look at the Rajat or the Dilip. Basic workhorse models, full steel construction, inhouse movements, they look classic too...

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is orient available in India? Mako has cult following..but its divers and huge, if you like dress watch models orient have excellent collection, that too for a reasonable price.

i think my janata need to be regulated, its already running slow 2 minutes after 5 hrs of running. did you try their new ADSL NASL models?
Orient had plans to launch in India, they had put up a big stall at the Mumbai watch show last year. Dunno the current status.

Regarding your Janata, I have had a few HMT Handwound watches that lost 3 mins in 24hours and some ones which gained 5 mins in 24 hrs. These were then corrected and were expertly regulated by the HMT service centre in Mumbai. Losing 2 mins in 5 hrs sounds like something is wrong somewhere. Check how long the watch runs after a full wind up, it should run min 32 hours. Check this and revert. Maybe your watch is old stock and needs just an overhauling to get going again.

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i gave like 12 rotations and after 7 hrs it stopped then i gave few more rotations and it lasted like 10 more hrs, when i took it out from my drawer today morning i saw it running but 1 hour slow. i corrected the time and gave around 15 rotations. its running well since but 2 minutes slow..i will see how it runs this week and might take it for regulation
Boss, 11-12 rotations is correct. One rotation being defined as 360deg rotation of the winding crown. Your watch needs an overhaul. Period.

Yeah Hari317, you are correct, that's a bitter truth about HMT watches no one can own just one.
that is the sweet truth, my dear fellow HMTian.

yeah sure, i will wait, i think watches take some time to set.
I don't think waiting is gonna help. YMMV.

backer, forgive me for this but I couldn't make out pattern from your response. All my hand wound HMT watches can't take no more then 11 turns. I have long fingers so may be I can turn more in one go but you gave 12 rotations (that's nearly full wound) then after 7 hrs couple more and then 10 hrs later 15 more. 10 roations of mine makes my watches run around 30 hrs but yours can take so many turns in short periods???

Hari/AB, any clues?
It means that his watch needs service, usually a proper oiling, it is required in watches that have sat in the showroom for a long time. HMT Dadar folks service their old stock watches before selling to me. In fact there are a few watches they are refusing to sell me because in their opinion the pieces are defective!
Depends upon everyone's style of rotating. It take 30 rotations for me to have the full wind. This may be because I wind back and forth slowly.
One rotation is 360deg, are you saying that you can make 30 such 360 deg crown rotations in your Handwound HMT watch? if the crown comes back quite a bit it means the ratchet is a bit loose, get it checked.

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i am not sure whether i hv covered 360 deg per rotation, but it took 20 odd rotations for me to get it fully wound..so that explains why my 10 rotations lasted only few hrs. the watch is working fine now. i think the drastic slowing down is due to in adequate winding.

but as u said the crown comes back quite a bit on every rotation...is that a problem? i didnt see that on any of my other winding watches (but those are automatic with manual wind option watches)
Hey Backer, it is good to know that your watch is fine now. The crown coming back is not a problem, just an annoyance. Enjoy your watch.

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Edit: BTW, I find that my watches start gaining time when the power reserve goes down...
 

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That one looks great, what's the going price for one of these? I like the very clean dial and the nice and the refined hands :-!
Thanks, I was taken in by the looks too. I already have a Pocket watch but had to buy this one.

nice one, Hari. My heart says get one of those pocket watch but mind says, what would I do with it?
Use it. I have started carrying my pocket watch to work. I found a nice dealer on ebay selling vintage style short 7 inch pocket watch chains with a spring loop on the other end(look for vintagewatchcrystal). I carry the watch in the "watch pocket" of my Jeans, the chain secured to the belt loop, very convienient.

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Today was a lucky day, found a few treasures(at least for me):

HMT Kajal (in reverse trim!):

Kajal is the Hindi word for Kohl. In its usual avatar, it is identical to the Rajat, but with a black hard anodized case, black leather strap and a yellow dial. However today, I found a brand new Kajal in a steel case, solid stuck indices with lume dots on a gorgeous black dial. Some poor pictures of this subtle beauty:







HMT Kailash:

Kailash is the mythical abode of Lord Shiva, now located in Tibet. This model has already been documented by AkshayB, however I had not purchased this watch at that time last year when it was available at Lakshmi Time, Blr, I was running behind my holy grail HMT: the White Pilot at that time. However of late, I had been looking for this watch and today found this dealer who it seems has ample stocks of this model, bought one. This is a watch that has to be worn to appreciate it. it is hewn out of a solid block of SS, beautifully finished dial, mineral crystal and plenty of old world charm. The bracelet is superb too.







HMT Vinay:

Vinay is the Sanskrit word for humility. However this watch is anything but humble, it literally jumped out of the display case and clasped itself on my wrist! Had to buy this one, unusually large size for a Handwound HMT, elegant dial and a superb case. Unfortunately this watch no longer belongs to me... I have hairy wrists and bracelets are a no no, I had just finished putting a nice Mil strap to it when my wife saw it, she liked it so much that she has now appropriated it for herself!







A group shot of today's haul:



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I have found a few old Rajats with the dials mentioning 6901 and 6902. The conventional auto movement used by HMT is the 6500, 21600bph, I checked to see that the Citizen 6900 was a 28800bph smaller sized movement. Does anyone know anything about the 6900 movements used by HMT?

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Hari,

Awesome pics!

Do you have, or know where I can see a list of HMT stores in India? I have a friend going over soon, but I'm not sure all where they will be yet.

Thanks!
Thanks! HMTs are sold through HMT owned retail showrooms and also through third party retailer shops. This page: link has the list of cities in India that have the HMT operated showrooms. However any town in India might have a small watchshop that would have some basic models. Good luck!
 

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Awesome! My friend is going to be in Hyderabad for work for 3 months, and there is a store there. Thanks!
The first address is correct. There are two HMT owned watch outlets in Hyderabad as far as I know, I am a regular visitor to Hyderabad. The main one is in the NSF Building opp. Fateh Maidan(Lal Bahadur Stadium). Tell your friend that it is the adjacent building to the Income Tax office.

The second smaller one is located just outside HMT bearings factory at Moula Ali, just at the start of the Moula Ali bridge.

The main showroom had the Roman Automatic in stock tthe last time I checked.

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This is the first time i have seen this pocket watch. Where are you guys getting them. I am looking for some rare HMT in Bangalore. Haven t found any till now. All i could find was a Janata. Even the pilot is no where to be found. Everyone are eager to show me their quartz collection or the new ADSL models.
Pilot is out of stock from HMT but some shops here and there do have some pieces left. I bought one for a friend on Saturday. The pocket and other HMT watches that I have documented are available/were bought in Mumbai.
 

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One more thing i noticed is that the straps, especially the bracelets are quite bad. ...
i generally agree with you regarding the straps. Some notable exceptions are the steel bracelets found on the Rajat and Dilip. These are superb. The tightly woven bracelets on the Kailash and the Ana-Digi are also very good.

HMT used to provide excellent yellow nylon straps matching the gold case of the Sona and other models, alas those are no longer found.

Till now I was buying only from the HMT showrooms, now i have started looking at other shops as well.

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