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Here are my two Sturmanskies. I have hesitated in posting this because these are the two watches I have spent the most money on and also because I have misgivings about both of them. I did get both of them for good prices, so I am not complaining.
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The military 31569 on the left is missing lume on all the indices and has a green lume dot at the 12. Both make me uneasy. The civilian 3133 on the right has no lettering on the dial, like the earliest aviator chronographs, but is clearly a 1990's model.

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Nothing wrong, as far as I can tell with the movements, but surprised to find what looks like a Soviet movement in the 3133.

I love both watches, though, and they keep excellent time. I'd be interested in other comrades comments about the anomalies I've observed.
 

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NuttySlack,

Its not easy to tell from your pictures as there a little on the small size, but I have the following thoughts..

the 31659 on the left dates from around 89-90' lume loss is common, the bezel ring with the green dot comes from another earlier 31659 as pictured below.

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the 3133 on the right is an earlier Sturmanskie dial in a much later "Classic" style case, this combination never existed from the factory, a little artistic licence has been used, probably because the original case was damaged or used for another watch.

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NuttySlack,

Its not easy to tell from your pictures as there a little on the small size, but I have the following thoughts..

the 31659 on the left dates from around 89-90' lume loss is common, the bezel ring with the green dot comes from another earlier 31659 as pictured below.



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the 3133 on the right is an earlier Sturmanskie dial in a much later "Classic" style case, this combination never existed from the factory, a little artistic licence has been used, probably because the original case was damaged or used for another watch.

Enjoy...
Matt, I hope that's not your black and green "sturmanskie" because that dial looks like it's been re-painted. There is some doubt expressed in some quarters about the authenticity of these. I saw one the other day that was supposedly NOS with papers dating it 1990.

I think you're spot on about the one on the right. I usually don't want to re-lume my sturmanskies but the 31659 would be a good candidate for a complete re-lume.
 
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