New Orient FLIGHT Model ER2A

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Centropolis

· #3 · Dec 3, 2012

I love these models but it looks too much like two of the watches I own already but they look great.

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Blue bird

· #4 · Dec 3, 2012

I'm liking the green dial!
Very unique for a pilot watch

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K-ST8

· #5 · Dec 6, 2012

Just ordered the black dial on the PVD (ER2A001B)! I also ordered a couple of Maratac Mil Series bands (olive drab and black) to throw on. Will try to post my thoughts with some pics in a few days after I receive it.

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scosgt

· #6 · Dec 9, 2012

I just ordered the black dial on PVD. Looks awesome, hope the timekeeping is good.
Now if only someone would bring in this one:

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Samwatch

· #7 · Dec 9, 2012

Very nice too. But it's a quartz...

Michael

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iamsupersam

· #8 · Dec 11, 2012

Please report back on the lume performance guys!

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K-ST8

· #9 · Dec 11, 2012 (Edited)

OK. Got mine (ER2A001B black on black) yesterday. Shipping from Island Watch was fast. First impression is that I really like the watch. I wanted a B-Type pilot's watch on PVD (or IP or whatever you want to call it) with a date function and that is exactly what this is for a good price IMO. I'll give some initial thoughts here and hopefully upload some pics, etc. in a day or two. The stock 22mm black genuine leather strap is surprisingly nice. The strap is hefty and thick (in a good way for a mil style watch) yet soft and feels good on the wrist. I have relatively small 6.5" wrists and the 42mm case (sans crown) looks great and the lugs do not extend over the edge of my arm. I think it is about 12mm thick, but it feels relatively thin--I didn't have a problem getting a dress shirt over it yesterday. The watch is not overly heavy but is not super light either--a good weight I think. Crystal is mineral and completely flat. Screw down crown is nice. No hacking function, though for an automatic I'm not sure I care. I've only had it for one day and did not wear it to bed last night. However, it is +17s over the course of the past 24hrs. I will report back in a few weeks after the movement gets a chance to "settle" a bit--I would hope for an improvement in accuracy, but again, not sure I care that much for an auto. The hands are sword style and come to a very fine sharp point, with the tip of the minute hand actually extending over the indices which looks cool. Plain black B-Style dial with the Orient stamp under 12:00. While I would prefer a completely plain, "sterile" dial, the Orient logo is understated. As for the lume--the video on the Orient website makes a big deal about it. It is freezing here so I have not really been out in the sun, but I have taken an LED flashlight and shined in on the watch for a few seconds which resulted in very very bright lume on the hands and outer (B-type) markers. The inner (A-type) markers are not illuminated. I can't speak for the duration of the lume, but I will say after having stored the watch in a box over night, it still had some lume left on it this morning. If I could change anything about the watch, I would prefer a dome crystal (sapphire) and a black date wheel with white numerals. However, for the price, I think this is a good deal I am very pleased. I will upload some pics soon and will also throw a Maratac Mil Series or two on the watch.

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scosgt

· #10 · Dec 11, 2012 (Edited)

I got mine today. Overall I am quite pleased. The quality of the movement and dial is exceptional. The inner dial shows a little sunburst effect, the outer dial is glossy but plain. The lume is impressive, but I don't know how long it lasts, will report back on that later.
I hate the straps, they are too thick and stiff. Changed them for some Dakota Watch Co straps, black "vintage" with white stitching. I think for sure you will need leather on this watch, as it wears pretty big and heavy. Cloth won't hold it up.
I shook it a bit and put it in my timing machine. Looks like +9-+12 seconds per day. I will not try to regulate it for at least a week, as it probably needs to wear in and spread the oil a bit to get a true reading, which of course could be better or worse. Beat error is 0.0, and the + 9 - +16 is consistent through all positions, which indicates it can probably be regulated to + 4 or 5 seconds a day. When it reads +20 face up and -15 crown down, you are kinda stuck with it, but this one is + about the same all the way through, so after it breaks in if that stays the same I should be able to slow it down a little bit.

the PVD finish is consistently good throughout, and I prefer the flat crystal. I think this is a heck of a value considering the current price of a similar Fortis Flieger.

Just to mention, the hands and markings are all BRIGHT WHITE, which makes this watch REALLY easy to read.

If you are considering one of these grab one quick. Orient watches seem to disappear and be unavailable sometimes, especially the military types. I have a quartz titanium (bracelet) pilot watch that I bought a few years ago on Ebay. Liked it so much I bought another. It was around $60.00. Shortly thereafter the only place I could find that model was Asia, and they wanted like $300.00

I would like to see Orient make the same setup but with the more traditional pilot dial, like on an IWC. I would buy one of those instantly.

BTW, I had also bought a Parnis quartz chrono which I like a lot. It looks just like the current IWC chrono with a PVD case. But the difference in quality between that and this Orient is just amazing. Not even close.

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scosgt

· #11 · Dec 11, 2012

And it does hack. Just set the time one minute in advance and hold the minutes hand backwards slightly, the seconds hand will stop. With a little practice you can hack it to your hearts content.

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K-ST8

· #12 · Dec 11, 2012

I'm not sure what you mean about the hacking--you mean "back hack" by turning the crown counter-clockwise or is there another way? I just meant that it doesn't appear that the movement has an intended hacking function. I see what you mean about the sunburst in the inner dial--I hadn't even noticed that. It is very subtle but it is there. It is interesting that your strap was stiff. I found my stock strap to be anything but and very comfortable. I'm hoping that a Maratac nylon will hold up--this watch can't be as heavy as their large Pilot can it? I will probably look for another leather strap though in a lighter shade though. Glad to hear like yours. It is a great deal for the $.

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scosgt

· #13 · Dec 11, 2012

K-ST8 said:
I'm not sure what you mean about the hacking--you mean "back hack" by turning the crown counter-clockwise or is there another way? I just meant that it doesn't appear that the movement has an intended hacking function. I see what you mean about the sunburst in the inner dial--I hadn't even noticed that. It is very subtle but it is there. It is interesting that your strap was stiff. I found my stock strap to be anything but and very comfortable. I'm hoping that a Maratac nylon will hold up--this watch can't be as heavy as their large Pilot can it? I will probably look for another leather strap though in a lighter shade though. Glad to hear like yours. It is a great deal for the $.

Yes, back hack. Not elegant, but it does work and will allow proper timing of the watch.

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chrislang

· #14 · Dec 12, 2012

Great reviews guys. Please post some pics and some wrist shots

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mpalmer

· #15 · Dec 12, 2012

I like Orient, but something about a Japanese Flieger watch just does not do it for me...

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Samwatch

· #16 · Dec 12, 2012

scosgt said:
I got mine today. Overall I am quite pleased. The quality of the movement and dial is exceptional. The inner dial shows a little sunburst effect, the outer dial is glossy but plain. The lume is impressive, but I don't know how long it lasts, will report back on that later.
I hate the straps, they are too thick and stiff. Changed them for some Dakota Watch Co straps, black "vintage" with white stitching. I think for sure you will need leather on this watch, as it wears pretty big and heavy. Cloth won't hold it up.
I shook it a bit and put it in my timing machine. Looks like +9-+12 seconds per day. I will not try to regulate it for at least a week, as it probably needs to wear in and spread the oil a bit to get a true reading, which of course could be better or worse. Beat error is 0.0, and the + 9 - +16 is consistent through all positions, which indicates it can probably be regulated to + 4 or 5 seconds a day. When it reads +20 face up and -15 crown down, you are kinda stuck with it, but this one is + about the same all the way through, so after it breaks in if that stays the same I should be able to slow it down a little bit.

the PVD finish is consistently good throughout, and I prefer the flat crystal. I think this is a heck of a value considering the current price of a similar Fortis Flieger.

Just to mention, the hands and markings are all BRIGHT WHITE, which makes this watch REALLY easy to read.

If you are considering one of these grab one quick. Orient watches seem to disappear and be unavailable sometimes, especially the military types. I have a quartz titanium (bracelet) pilot watch that I bought a few years ago on Ebay. Liked it so much I bought another. It was around $60.00. Shortly thereafter the only place I could find that model was Asia, and they wanted like $300.00

I would like to see Orient make the same setup but with the more traditional pilot dial, like on an IWC. I would buy one of those instantly.

BTW, I had also bought a Parnis quartz chrono which I like a lot. It looks just like the current IWC chrono with a PVD case. But the difference in quality between that and this Orient is just amazing. Not even close.

Great review! |> Now, show us some pics, please!
I hoped that it would have that sunburst effect...

I ordered the blue dialed one from islandwatch.
It still seemes to be in LA Airport - sigh... :roll:

Michael

P.S. Those japanese fliegers are great! Hehehe... :-d

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scosgt

· #17 · Dec 13, 2012

Just consider it a Zero pilots watch.

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scosgt

· #18 · Dec 13, 2012

I hope not to jinx myself, but I regulated it yesterday. Left it overnight on the winder. Today, after around 22 hours, it is -1 second. Not too shabby, and it may make up that second when worn. Nice watch for the money!

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