New San Martin SN004

gbelleh said:

Just got this yesterday. Overall it looks good. View attachment 16967240

I have to say, the lume is very bright!
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Yes of course it looks good, it's a direct copy of a good looking watch.


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countingseconds said:

It takes way more than just a good looking design to build a quality watch. San Martin is really good at making quality watches.

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Don't think they're making anything. They're copying! Only things changed are to make it cheaper.


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countingseconds said:

It's an illusion to think that making good, solid, well finished watches is easy. And the post above makes it very clear that they're not 1:1 the same watch.

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Yeah there are some differences. All of them to make the watch much cheaper too. San Martin is all about copying the flavour of the day and convincing people to hand over money. Every new release they have is based on flavour of the day IP from another watch maker. It doesn't matter how hard or easy it is to copy. It's still a very low grade copy. Clones and fakes are at the top when it comes to deception, this type of copying is only marginally behind.


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countingseconds said:

Valid point. Do yo feel the same about generic drugs? You know, when the pharmacist is asking you if you're okay paying 8% for a no name medicine instead of 100% for big brand. Have ever said yes to the pharmacist?

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There are many other examples as well. If that's the strength of your argument though, it's a very weak recommendation. Someone else is doing something similar doesn't make it right.


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Alex_B. said:

Doesn't make it wrong either…
What makes you feel the need to stick up for multibillion dollar companies that in reality aren’t impacted in any way? What is this little crusade you’re on giving you?
These aren’t fakes and pretending they are and pretending buying one of these copies is an immoral sin says more about you than the people buying said copies.

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There are many many other watch manufacturers in the San Martin price range that make watches that are true homages as well as original pieces to choose from that do not simply copy the flavour of the day. Dan Murphy, Baltic and Maen, just to name a few. You can bet your house over the past couple of years that every time Tudor release a watch, this company will copy it. If they spent some time making something themselves, I'd have perhaps something positive to say about them. All you and others are doing is rewarding quick profit hunters. Tell me they have any love or passion in what they do other than making a buck.

On the medical front, I have a blood disease that has me spending more than a San Martin on medications. I give them the script and they give me the medication. This has been over twelve years now and there are no conversations of generic options.


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Alex_B. said:

So what?
Who are you to decide what constitutes a true homage and what is morally acceptable? Get off your high horse…

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I'm just someone with an opinion just like you and others. Some will have the option that fakes, replicas and San Martin are fine valid products. Others will have the opinion that they are not. Having an opinion does not put me on a high horse.


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