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New Sinn policy of not disclosing movements?

15K views 57 replies 22 participants last post by  Dennis Parris  
#1 · (Edited)
Dear all,
It seems like Sinn has decided to stop advertising what movement ticks inside their watches. When you click on the "Technical details" tab on any of their watches in the Sinn website it just says "High-quality mechanical movement". And when you click on that sentence the page redirects you to the following text:

In addition to technology, the heart of any SINN watch is the fascinating mechanical movement. We use exclusively the very best quality of movements provided by renowned manufacturers with proven experience with whom we've been working for many years:

  • ETA SA Manufacture Horlogère Suisse, Grenchen, Switzerland
  • Manufacture La Joux-Perret SA, La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland
  • SELLITA WATCH CO, La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland
  • Soprod SA, Les Reussilles, Switzerland
  • Uhren-Werke-Dresden, Germany
The movements are also manufactured in parts in accordance with our technical specifications.
As required by capacities, we reserve the right to switch between the manufacturers mentioned above when it comes to sourcing the movement for a single model. In other words, the movement actually used may differ from that listed in the technical specifications. However, we always use a movement of highest quality from one of the manufacturers mentioned above.
Should you have any individual questions regarding your watch, we'll be happy to advise you personally.


This is unfortunate to say the least. I was about to pull the trigger on a Sinn EZM 3. It was my understanding that EZM 3 has (or used to have) an ETA 2824 ticking under the hood. I have had two bad experiences with SW200-1 and don't want that movement. Now according to their website I might get a SW200-1 movement if I get the watch...
 
#47 ·
Reading this news and other recent posts about the different movements/brands, one can only assume Sinn is unhappy with the quality of Selitta but has its hands tied. They have to rely on them for one reason or another, but they simply don't function as well.

My U1 had an issue 5 years ago under mfg warranty that they repaired. I bought it within the first six months or so after switching movements to SW. Upon repairing it they scratched the inside face of the watch, not that noticeable, but upon returning to Frankfurt and Sinn factory they acknowledged it was their mistake and fixed at no cost.

Sure this is just one example, but my U1 alone has probably costed them $500+ in repair costs. Sounds like I'm not alone.
 
#48 ·
If I buy a new watch under $200 dollars I don't really care what mechanical movement they put in the watch. But for thousands of dollars I would personally like to know what I'm buying and what movement is being provided with my watch.

On another note, one responder stated that the reason Sinn stopped installing Sopord movements and switched to ETA's in the T2's was due to poor timing or other issues. It is my understanding that no reason was given and many are just speculating.
 
#55 · (Edited)
Some have suggested you ask the retailer what movement is in the watch at the time of purchase. They couldn't tell me yesterday (Watchbuys). I still made the purchase of a non-utc 857 nonetheless. The reality is I trust Sinn and I have a 3-year warranty and I wanted this watch, which was not showing up on the secondary. I cannot very well blame Sinn for wanting to keep production lines moving and this watch had been out of stock for a while at Watchbuys.

I do wish they just annotated the movement in the pamphlet that comes with the watch. Steinhart does that.

PS - "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference" - Mark Twain

That is applicable for those that get in back and forth quips on these forums. I pity you.
 
#58 ·
Just checked the Sinn website, and it seems as though they've listened to the worried customer voices and made the movement information available again-- albeit with a caveat:

"The information on the mechanical movement corresponds to the current production situation in Frankfurt am Main. Due to technical changes, it may happen in individual cases that stock items of our sales partners deviate from this information."