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Hi,


I have a Stowa Antea 365 that I use as a dress watch. It came with a 20 mm black leather strap. Stowa, unfortunately cannot ship their crocodile strap into the United States. I really prefer a deployant over a buckle.
  • Who are the best makers of aftermarket straps that I should consider?
  • Differences between crocodile, alligator and cayman, which is considered the finest and why?
  • Will my deployant on my current strap be easily transfered or am I better off buying another with the new strap?
  • Black is an obvious choice, but brown, cognac or even a deep blue might look good with the white face and blue hands. Thoughts here or images to share?
Thanks,

Bob
 

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Who are the best makers of aftermarket straps that I should consider?
Some of the more common ones are Di-Modell, Hirsch, Hadley-Roma, and Rios, unless you want to go with a custom maker. I have had good experiences with Di-Modell and Hirsch straps.


Differences between crocodile, alligator and cayman, which is considered the finest and why?
Try this thread (located with WUS's handy search feature): https://www.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=190972&highlight=crocodile+cayman

I don't know if this is true across the board, but it seems that Louisiana alligator usually has a larger, more squared pattern that appeals more to me than the tighter, more circular grain of some crocs and caymans.


Will my deployant on my current strap be easily transfered or am I better off buying another with the new strap?
All of the deployants I've used attach with a springbar or screwbar at one end and a snap or screw at the other. They are easily moved from one strap to another, as long as the width of the straps is the same. Remember to compare widths at the buckle end, rather than the lug end, of the straps.


Black is an obvious choice, but brown, cognac or even a deep blue might look good with the white face and blue hands. Thoughts here or images to share?
There are tons of photos throughout this forum. IMHO, navy blue alligator straps tend to look really sharp on Stowas with the blued hands. Not an Antea, but this photo will give you an idea: https://www.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?p=1365683#poststop
 

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Hi,


The Stowa strap is a 20 mm to 18 mm taper. For a 36,5 mm x 9,2 mm watch what thickness strap would be proportionate. I would estimate the Stowa leather strap tapers from 3mm at the watch lugs to ~ 2 mm at the deployant. Some straps state their thickness and others do not. Here is what I have found so far in alligator straps:
  • Camille Fournet: 6.0-2.5 mm, 5.5 - 2.5 mm and 5.0 - 2.5 mm
  • Di-Modell: No information
  • Hirsch: No information
  • Rios: 6.0-3.0 mm, 3.5 - 3.0 mm and 2.5 mm constant
  • Sirtolli: 6.0 - 3.0 mm and 3.0 mm
I am guessing that I should stay at 3.5 mm or less at the lugs of the watch. Is this a correct assumption? Does anyone have thickness information on Hirsch or Di-modell? I am looking for either a deep blue alligator strap or a cordovan strap.


Additionally, does anyone know the maxmum thickness the screw in the Stowa deployant clasp will fit through? This is not necessarily and limitation, but I might gat an aftermarket deployant. Does anyone have experience between:
  • Axel Jost?
  • Hirsch?
  • Rios?
  • RHD?
Thanks very much!

Bob
 

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I would think 3-4 mm at the lugs would be about right. That's an opinion based on photos only, as I don't have an Antea. But that style of watch calls for a thinner strap, IMHO.
 

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I have had very good luck using Stone Creek straps. Jeanna is very responsive and does a great glazed gator with deployant for a very reasonable price. I got the chocolate for one of my watches and she did a beautiful job.
 

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I have my on the Antena 365 with white face and my choice would be dark blue croc strap with the deployment but when in doubt even a decent Hirsch basic black calf leather works too
 

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Hi,

I wanted to post some of the options that I have found in straps and deployants and solicit some thoughts.

Straps:

Di-Modell with aero lining (considering the blue above or black or cordovan below)


Hadley-Roma (the burgundy-cordovan or Black colored with matching stitching)


Hirsch Artisinal London (Blue Matte or Black Matte)


Rios 1931 (Ocean Blue or Black)


Deployants:

Axel Jost DFI (stainless)


Hirsch Pusher Buckle(stainless)

Rios 1931 Ardillon Pusher (stainless)


RHD (stainless polished or brushed)



My current strap tapers from 20 mm at the lugs to 18 mm at the tip. It is not clear that all of these straps do. Additionally, they may be thicker than what my Stowa deployant can reached through (only about 2 mm currently).

I am curious to your thoughts. The Antea is my dress watch and is mostly worn with a suit. While the concept of a colored strap is interesting, I am wondering if I might be better off with basic black. Additionally, I seem to be attracted to matte finishes to let the simple case stand out. Thoughts regarding matte vs. glossy finishes are appreciated. I have very little experience with straps. All of my other watches have bracelets.

Thanks,

Bob
 

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Stupid me is now realizing that most alligator straps are probably too thick at the lugs for the Antea. I have identified some from Hirsch, Rios 1931 and Sirtoli that are thinner. Of the straps listed below, do any of you have any opinions regarding relative quality? The Stowa strap is approximately 3 mm at the lugs, do you think if I go thicker it will overwhelm the watch?

Hirsch Artisenal (20x18mm):
  • London 4.0-2.1 mm thick
  • Charme 3.8-2.2 mm thick
  • San Remo 3.8 mm thick
  • Eleganza 2.0 mm thick
Rios 1931 (20x18mm):
  • Fullcut 42 3.5-3.0 mm
  • Fullcut 44 2.0 mm
Sirtoli (20x18mm):
  • Sirtoli Angelo 3.0 mm
Thanks,

Bob
 

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I think that I will give the Hirsch Artisanal Charme in matte black a try. It is closest in size to the Stowa leather strap. It's 3.8 mm at the lugs which should not stand out too much, and it tapers to a similar thickness at the clasp end 2.2 mm.

Bob

Stupid me is now realizing that most alligator straps are probably too thick at the lugs for the Antea. I have identified some from Hirsch, Rios 1931 and Sirtoli that are thinner. Of the straps listed below, do any of you have any opinions regarding relative quality? The Stowa strap is approximately 3 mm at the lugs, do you think if I go thicker it will overwhelm the watch?


Hirsch Artisenal (20x18mm):
  • London 4.0-2.1 mm thick
  • Charme 3.8-2.2 mm thick
  • San Remo 3.8 mm thick
  • Eleganza 2.0 mm thick
Rios 1931 (20x18mm):
  • Fullcut 42 3.5-3.0 mm
  • Fullcut 44 2.0 mm
Sirtoli (20x18mm):
  • Sirtoli Angelo 3.0 mm
Thanks,

Bob
 

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Just curious, are you sure the strap is 20mm? When I ordered a brown strap to go with the black one for the 365 Regine said she could send me a brown from the antea ks(18mm). The lug size on the website lists the ks at 18 and the 390 at 20 but I can't find a listing for the 365.
 

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Please be informed that the black strap which comes with Antea 365 isn't available in brown, I could only offer you the the strap which is fixed at our Antea KS. Please check if you want this strap and confirm. After completing your new order I will give you total.
Best regards
Regine



I guess I better send stowa an email to make sure I get the right strap. Thanks
 

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I have a hunch that she mixed up her models and didn't really mean KS. Maybe she meant to say I could only offer you the the strap which is fixed at our Antea Automatik. That would be the same size as the 365. I would definitely send an email to clarify.
 

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I believe that the 365 and 390 are fitted with a 20/18 mm strap with a 18 mm deployant and the KS is fitted with a 18/16 mm strap with a 16 mm deployant. All public information on the Stowa website leads me to this conclusion.

The page for the 18 mm strap states:
Straps in 18 mm size.Usable for our models: Antea KS, Exima and Exima Chronometer.
The page for the 16 mm deployant states:
for STOWA leatherstraps. Please order the 16 mm size for the model: Antea Kleine Sekunde and Exima. Please order the 18 mm size for the model: Marine Automatik, Marine Original and Antea automatic.
The page for the 20 mm strap states:
Straps in 20 mm size. Usable for our models: Antea (automatic), Airman and Marine (automatic).
The page for the 18 mm deployant states:
Deployment buckle for STOWA leatherstraps. Please order the 18 mm size for the Antea Automatic, Marine Automatic and Marine Original. The deployment is available in polished or matt finish.

Bob



Please be informed that the black strap which comes with Antea 365 isn't available in brown, I could only offer you the the strap which is fixed at our Antea KS. Please check if you want this strap and confirm. After completing your new order I will give you total.
Best regards
Regine


I guess I better send stowa an email to make sure I get the right strap. Thanks
 

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Doug,

You are absolutely correct regarding the strap size!

A 20 mm alligator strap and 18 mm aftermarket deployant arrived this morning. The strap clearly does not fit!!!

I measured between my lugs and it measures slightly over 18 mm and not 20 mm as the Stowa website states! I also measured the deployant and it is also a 16 mm deployant and NOT a 18 mm deployant as the website states.

I know that they are in the midst of a move, but Jorg or someone at Stowa should correct this ASAP. I just ordered a number of aftermarket items incorrectly that I am stuck with because of this mis-information.


:-(

Bob
 
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