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Well lucky you. Don’t be upset by the comment I have over 20 watches including omegas gs nomos. All are a fraction off here and there. Even my 321 Ed white. Yeah the dd is off more than normal. Doesn’t overly bother me. Reminds me a human made it.

when I was young these things would absolutely drive me crazy though.
If you’re near an RSC, I’d try to swing by when Covid settles to get that fixed. That has to be out of their acceptable range of tolerance. It’s an easy fix for them to make right.


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If you’re near an RSC, I’d try to swing by when Covid settles to get that fixed. That has to be out of their acceptable range of tolerance. It’s an easy fix for them to make right.


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100% easy fix but I’ve sent my dj in for warranty before came back with a new scratch. My 126655 needed a different strap size came back with a lug nick. So there is zero chance they’re touching an otherwise perfect dd because of a 2min misalignment. I can read the time and the issue is a human one not the movement failing or something so it’s okay for me.

oh and an op36 for warranty very minor lug scratch at the back of the watch, super minor but yeah. Wouldnt trust them to take a bracelet off my dd without marking it.
 

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The Sub is supposed to be resistant to magnetic fields. It’s one of the defining characteristics of the Rolex movement. I couldn’t immediately find the spec for the field strength resistance, but I would be surprised if that were an issue.
Hover it over a compass and you will know for sure. If you travel with the watch it can pick up all kinds of magnetism.
 

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Hover it over a compass and you will know for sure. If you travel with the watch it can pick up all kinds of magnetism.
No magnetism detected with the Lepsi app on iPhone. It easily detects a magnet placed a short distance away from phone. Given that observation and the known magnetic "protection" in the movement, I don't think an anti-magnetism treatment is in order.
 

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No magnetism detected with the Lepsi app on iPhone. It easily detects a magnet placed a short distance away from phone. Given that observation and the known magnetic "protection" in the movement, I don't think an anti-magnetism treatment is in order.
Def not, watches run faster on when magnetised and Rolex are pretty resistant to it…
 

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I owned a Deepsea for years & a fat boy Sub for 18month. Both were rock solid day in day out -2
I doubt you will pick up those lost seconds by night time position
I think Rolex mvmnts are very stable
So can you live with it nudged outside specs adding up to a minute slow every month?
Wouldn't bother me & its still inside COSC - but it is outside specs & so you can return n get it adjusted
 

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100% easy fix but I’ve sent my dj in for warranty before came back with a new scratch. My 126655 needed a different strap size came back with a lug nick. So there is zero chance they’re touching an otherwise perfect dd because of a 2min misalignment. I can read the time and the issue is a human one not the movement failing or something so it’s okay for me.

oh and an op36 for warranty very minor lug scratch at the back of the watch, super minor but yeah. Wouldnt trust them to take a bracelet off my dd without marking it.
I’m glad to know that this doesn’t only happen to me! I wouldn’t trust them with anything of mine after my last experience


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@Archer @gumpy-au @Kjo43

Update. After 24 hours of now wear, I repeated the measurements above on the timegrapher, same procedure as before.

PositionAmplitude (deg)Beat error (ms)Rate (spd)
DU2490.00.9
DD2390.00.1
CD2140.1-4.4
CU2060.1-4.6
6UForgot to update this0.1-5.1
12U2090.1-4.1

Net results:

Overall rate decreased from -1.1 to -2.9. Amplitudes decreased by 20-30 degrees. Some amplitudes close to 200 degrees. Crown up decreased by more than 4 spd. Delta went from 6.6 to 6.0

My prediction of what you (Archer and Gumpy-au) will say is, it's probably within spec, and not to worry. Watch if for a while. Repeat the tests again in several weeks or a few months.

Based on these results, I can probably wear the watch for one day out of every three or four without resetting the time: that is, wear it for a day and have it lose 3-4 seconds, then let it sit a few days dial up to catch back up.

Or I can resign myself to resetting the time every couple of days. Or I can learn to live with my watch not being within a few seconds of the actual time.

Nah, that last one ain't gonna happen--at least not anytime soon :)
The fact that a new watch is so close to just meeting the bare minimum amplitude specs is quite frankly not great. What to do about it is a good question. Right now service centers are swamped with work fixing these issues, so is adding yours to the mix a good idea? Based on information I've been getting I would say no, so I think continuing to wear it and checking it again in a while is a good idea. If nothing else, it will help all of us determine how fast these go South when they do head that direction.

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The fact that a new watch is so close to just meeting the bare minimum amplitude specs is quite frankly not great. What to do about it is a good question. Right now service centers are swamped with work fixing these issues, so is adding yours to the mix a good idea? Based on information I've been getting I would say no, so I think continuing to wear it and checking it again in a while is a good idea. If nothing else, it will help all of us determine how fast these go South when they do head that direction.

Cheers, Al
I totally understand your perspective I’ll give you a background from mine and why I wouldn’t sit there worrying about this too much.

I currently own 5 watches with the 32xx and 2 previous watches which have a 32xx.

2019 DJ - been I’m warranty twice. After the first warranty the watch was returned to similar specs as new, after the second warranty (late 2021) behaving totally different. Let’s see how it goes.
Late 2019 YM40 - started showing symptoms very early 2021, sold it and got my money back, this wasn’t a sentimental watch so no need to hold. RSC nicked the lugs changing the strap when new so I never loved it…

I then stayed away from 32xx until 2021.

I have a op36, Sub, DD40, Exp1. Aside from the Exp 1 that shows 300AMP at full wind, by 4 other 32xx watch’s are close to OPs amp data except they run about +2. The Exp 1 runs slow for me but with very high AMP. Two of the watches are approaching 1 year now and unlike the 2019 examples they are not showing any signs of deviation from when new. Also the watchmakers on TRF some of whom also directly work with Rolex aren’t painting quite a dire picture so OP if i were you I’d just enjoy and one day if you notice the watch is 2 mins behind, then start testing again… Otherwise it’s a mental drag on you for no reason and you have 5 years of warranty.

I’m jumped on this thread thinking it was one of the first 2021 32xx showing the issue but thankfully turned out not to be the case.

Now, should it turn out the 2021s do go bad, well most of my watches don’t have sentimental value… I guess it will be a reset year… I genuinely hope this isn’t the case as I’d like to think Rolex aren’t idiots…
 

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I totally understand your perspective I’ll give you a background from mine and why I wouldn’t sit there worrying about this too much.

I currently own 5 watches with the 32xx and 2 previous watches which have a 32xx.

2019 DJ - been I’m warranty twice. After the first warranty the watch was returned to similar specs as new, after the second warranty (late 2021) behaving totally different. Let’s see how it goes.
Late 2019 YM40 - started showing symptoms very early 2021, sold it and got my money back, this wasn’t a sentimental watch so no need to hold. RSC nicked the lugs changing the strap when new so I never loved it…

I then stayed away from 32xx until 2021.

I have a op36, Sub, DD40, Exp1. Aside from the Exp 1 that shows 300AMP at full wind, by 4 other 32xx watch’s are close to OPs amp data except they run about +2. The Exp 1 runs slow for me but with very high AMP. Two of the watches are approaching 1 year now and unlike the 2019 examples they are not showing any signs of deviation from when new. Also the watchmakers on TRF some of whom also directly work with Rolex aren’t painting quite a dire picture so OP if i were you I’d just enjoy and one day if you notice the watch is 2 mins behind, then start testing again… Otherwise it’s a mental drag on you for no reason and you have 5 years of warranty.

I’m jumped on this thread thinking it was one of the first 2021 32xx showing the issue but thankfully turned out not to be the case.

Now, should it turn out the 2021s do go bad, well most of my watches don’t have sentimental value… I guess it will be a reset year… I genuinely hope this isn’t the case as I’d like to think Rolex aren’t idiots…
My opinion was asked, so I gave it. If you agree or not really doesn’t change that, so we can agree to disagree.

Cheers, Al
 

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My opinion was asked, so I gave it. If you agree or not really doesn’t change that, so we can agree to disagree.

Cheers, Al
Yeah fair enough and you’re the watchmaker. At the same time I do understand what’s going through OPs head, could be totally fine and would be great if he can enjoy the watch without having to constantly measure.

What watches do you specialise in or you work on anything?
 

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Yeah fair enough and you’re the watchmaker. At the same time I do understand what’s going through OPs head, could be totally fine and would be great if he can enjoy the watch without having to constantly measure.

What watches do you specialise in or you work on anything?
I service more chronographs than any other type of watch...but I also work on simple manual wind watches, autos, alarm watches, etc. Vintage, modern, varying brands...
 
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