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Steinhart Ocean Vintage Military

Being a Seiko addict, I never did think that the first review I was going to write would be about this watch. A beautiful and well made "homage" watch by Steinhart. Some people are probably frowning just at the sight of that word. Well to me and I am sure many others, this homage watch actually made me aware of the beautiful Rolex 5517 that it is inspired from.
The Rolex 5517 (also known as the mil-sub) was a very limited military issue of around 1200 pieces for the Royal Navy in the 1970s. As you can imagine most of them saw some action and few have survived in their original form and those that did go for astronomical prices at least from my perspective ! But one thing that the homage did for me was to add a Rolex no date sub on my wanted list.

Case, bezel and crystal.

So let`s talk about Steinhart`s version. The watch comes in at 42mm in diameter and at 50mm lug to lug. This is mostly due to the very straight lugs which actually makes the watch wear a bit bigger than the 42mm would suggest. Right off the bat this means it will not be for everyone. For my 7.25 inch wrist it was just fine and the lugs did not overhang so I had no problem here. The top of the case is brushed while the sides have a mirror polish. The caseback as well as the crown are screwdown to insure the watch has a 300 meter depth rating. The action on the crown is very smooth with no grittiness.
The dial is protected by a stunning double domed sapphire crystal with beveled edges and blue AR coating. For me this was the best part about this watch, the beveled edges always create some distortion while the rest of the crystal is absolutely distortion free and the AR coating makes the watch look beautiful at all times.
The bezel is what you would expect of a dive watch, a classic 120 click unidirectional bezel with very good action, solid clicks and very little back play if any (my example at least). It is one of the highlights of the watch being fully indexed and faithful to the mil-sub.

The Dial

Now, down to the dial which is very accurately inspired by the 5517. The indices as well as other writings on the dial are painted and have a vintage look as if they had aged. Believe they call this lume paint Super Luminova "Old Radium" Vintage. As far as I am concerned it looks great in combination with the grey dial of the second generation OVM and does make the watch stand out from the crowd. I usually prefer applied indices to painted one but this was done nicely so while it was not ideal for me, it was not a major drawback not to mention it was accurate to the 5517. The indices are very big and easy to read (believe they call it the maxi dial), the hands are sword style and are easily distinguishable at a glance.

The movement

Powering the Steinhart Ocean Vintage Military is the 25 jewels hacking and hand winding ETA 2824-2 Elabore grade. While it is nothing spectacular it is a very robust movement beating at 28800 bph that is easily serviceable by any watchmaker. The accuracy of the watch should be within plus minus 20 seconds per day if I am not mistaken. My particular example was running at around +8 seconds per day. The only gripe I have with the movement is that the date wheel seems to be still inside despite the watch not having a date feature. The crown position for setting the date is still there and to me this was quite annoying.

Bracelet

The OVM comes with an oyster style bracelet. My second generation came with a non tapering bracelet but from what I can tell the newer versions come with a tapering bracelet from 22mm at the lugs to 18mm at the clasp. The bracelet is very well done actually especially at this price point. I would be hard pressed to find a better bracelet. To adjust the bracelet you have screws instead of pins which makes life so much more easier (remember every Seiko bracelet at this price with the dreaded pin and collar). The only downside is the clasp. The clasp is useable but compared to the rest of the bracelet it is quite disappointing. For my example I had to adjust it myself since I had to break a nail every time I wanted to take the watch off.
Now if you are not a bracelet type of person the good news is that the lugs are 22mm and this gives you a whole array of options. Personally I think the watch looks best on nato straps just as the Mil-sub which had fixed lugs! Check the pictures at the end of the post !

Conclusion

To conclude this small review I would say the Steinhart Ocean Vintage Military is a great value for your money. As far as dive watches go having all these features for a price of 380 euros in Europe is very hard to match. The only downside for some people might be the heavily inspired design from a 70s Rolex, but if this is not an issue for you I really cant give a reason not to go for it. The size is contemporary and should fit most wrists, it has an incredible sapphire crystal a great workhorse swiss movement and wears great with a huge variety of straps if the bracelet is not to your liking.
A great addition to any collection and why not a good choice for someone just getting their first swiss movement watch.

Hope this will be useful to people looking to purchase this watch in the future!


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Nice review of the mk2 mondi. I wonder if OVM owners prefer the older high dome sapphire crystal on the mk1+2 or like the newer medium dome on the mk3?

Great pictures by the way . I’m buying a mk3 very soon. I had the opportunity to buy a mk1 but passed it up


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Hello, thank you ! I had no ideea the mark 3 had a different crystal ! I was actually considering selling my mk2 for the mk3 just for the black dial, but i love the current crystal to much! You might have saved me some disappointment!
 

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Nice review of the mk2 mondi. I wonder if OVM owners prefer the older high dome sapphire crystal on the mk1+2 or like the newer medium dome on the mk3?

Great pictures by the way . I'm buying a mk3 very soon. I had the opportunity to buy a mk1 but passed it up

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I MUCH PREFER the older dome sapphire. Nothing wrong with the new one, it's well executed and beautiful on its own, but having owned them all, and I do mean ALL, I want the old design badly. I may even find a way to get one for my OVM 39 somehow. Definitely would make it a one-off.

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Glad to help mondi !! Nothing really as it’s all there on the Steinhart website in the specs .

I agree with dec1968 though the first and second incarnations of dome are much nicer to behold . Nice bevelled distortions on the dial it’s just perfect


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nice review.
I have the 3rd generation and it's a fantastic watch. gorgeous as hell.
as you, I was totally inspired by the milsub history and that was the main reason for my acquisition.

btw, the grey nato of the first shot... it's not a phenomenato strap?
I now have a bunch of nato for my OVM, but keep coming back to the grey or the black nylon natos.
 

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As I said when I got my Ocean Vintage One "Comex" back - the beveled-edge domed Steinhart sapphire crystal is MY idea of absolute perfection!
Knowing you've turned down $2,500 for that watch, I'll ask for your help finding another one. I'm going to rip the guts out and re-case the dial/movement. 39mm-40mm size. Already have a setup for it. Will need to have slight surgery on the dial. Case condition of old donor is irrelevant, so if one exists that's worn, help me out.

There's a little something in it for you if you help me source one (Ocean Comex model).

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▲▲▲ - Considering that Steinhart prolly made 25 or less of that model, I don't think I could get behind a project like that, since it would require cutting down the dial...

Also, a few years ago I "made the rounds" of EVERY owner of that model that *I* could find, offering a standing US$2,500 to each; haven't heard back from ANYONE yet...
 

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nice review.
I have the 3rd generation and it's a fantastic watch. gorgeous as hell.
as you, I was totally inspired by the milsub history and that was the main reason for my acquisition.

btw, the grey nato of the first shot... it's not a phenomenato strap?
I now have a bunch of nato for my OVM, but keep coming back to the grey or the black nylon natos.
Hei! The grey strap is actually from Blushark, the alpha line or what its called. Think they are great even tho they could be longer :)
 

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Nice review and photos! I can't wait for my Steinhart to get here.
 
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Hi mondi1911, I'm kind of late replying to this post, but I wanted to thank you for a great review. I actually made a hardcopy of it and read it several times. I bought an OVM MKIII with a MKII crystal swap, and if you don't mind, using a loupe, have a few observations of my own.

On the steel bracelet, I noticed on the underside a couple of pinholes. I found it odd though not a concern. I owned a vintage sub-date (ask me how much I kick myself for selling it) that the previous owner must've wore 24/7 and never washed it. Because of that, there were several pit marks on the caseback, but thanks to it being stainless steel, that caseback will probably last for generations without becoming a problem. Also on the bracelet, I noticed the screws for the links are quite small (or at least the heads are) compared to other bracelets I've had with screwed links. I'm not in the watch business by any means, and won't speculate if that affects the sturdiness of the bracelet, but it's just an observation. The fact that it has screw links at all, well, it makes me think of a TAG Heuer diver considered by many as a "good value" (and it probably is. I tried one on, it seemed really nice) but at approx. 5 times the cost of a new OVM, uses pin links.

Under the loupe, looking at the caseback (again, I'm not in the watch business), the crispness and care of the warrior, seahorse and text, TO ME, is shocking. The seahorse has an eye, not etched in sloppy, but... just, crisp. The only way I can explain it. the warriors 3 prong spear, the same way. the frosted affect the etching makes is simply stunning and a joy to look at.

Also, what looks like great care was taken, are the cuts in the aluminum bezel (sorry, I can't think of the name! knurling?!) Anyway, yeah, it looks like there's no burrs or scratches or excess crud of any kind.

All this really doesn't make a difference, though, when I put the watch on. It just feels right, weighty but not top heavy. The creamy appearance of the aluminum in the bezel contrasts beautifully with the polished steel sides of the case. The dial is easy to read, even without my glasses. To me, the quirky straight lugs just makes the watch even more endearing. I don't know. Just me, I guess. Also endearing to me is the Steinhart logo. Looks like a super-hero S from a 1950s comic book, maybe a Superman ally or something. The curve links of the bracelet, while to me not as comfortable as recent Rolex Oyster (which seem to just seamlessly flow from one link to another), is quite nice at this price. Really, I'd be mad if the Rolex wasn't at least A LITTLE better for the price you pay! And that's just it, in my opinion, the Steinhart OVM isn't just a great watch for the money, it's a great watch period. For the last month I've had trouble wearing any other watch.

Anyway, please forgive me for such a long reply (too much morning coffee) and thanks again for a great review!
Scott
 

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Hi mondi1911, I'm kind of late replying to this post, but I wanted to thank you for a great review. I actually made a hardcopy of it and read it several times. I bought an OVM MKIII with a MKII crystal swap, and if you don't mind, using a loupe, have a few observations of my own.

On the steel bracelet, I noticed on the underside a couple of pinholes. I found it odd though not a concern. I owned a vintage sub-date (ask me how much I kick myself for selling it) that the previous owner must've wore 24/7 and never washed it. Because of that, there were several pit marks on the caseback, but thanks to it being stainless steel, that caseback will probably last for generations without becoming a problem. Also on the bracelet, I noticed the screws for the links are quite small (or at least the heads are) compared to other bracelets I've had with screwed links. I'm not in the watch business by any means, and won't speculate if that affects the sturdiness of the bracelet, but it's just an observation. The fact that it has screw links at all, well, it makes me think of a TAG Heuer diver considered by many as a "good value" (and it probably is. I tried one on, it seemed really nice) but at approx. 5 times the cost of a new OVM, uses pin links.

Under the loupe, looking at the caseback (again, I'm not in the watch business), the crispness and care of the warrior, seahorse and text, TO ME, is shocking. The seahorse has an eye, not etched in sloppy, but... just, crisp. The only way I can explain it. the warriors 3 prong spear, the same way. the frosted affect the etching makes is simply stunning and a joy to look at.

Also, what looks like great care was taken, are the cuts in the aluminum bezel (sorry, I can't think of the name! knurling?!) Anyway, yeah, it looks like there's no burrs or scratches or excess crud of any kind.

All this really doesn't make a difference, though, when I put the watch on. It just feels right, weighty but not top heavy. The creamy appearance of the aluminum in the bezel contrasts beautifully with the polished steel sides of the case. The dial is easy to read, even without my glasses. To me, the quirky straight lugs just makes the watch even more endearing. I don't know. Just me, I guess. Also endearing to me is the Steinhart logo. Looks like a super-hero S from a 1950s comic book, maybe a Superman ally or something. The curve links of the bracelet, while to me not as comfortable as recent Rolex Oyster (which seem to just seamlessly flow from one link to another), is quite nice at this price. Really, I'd be mad if the Rolex wasn't at least A LITTLE better for the price you pay! And that's just it, in my opinion, the Steinhart OVM isn't just a great watch for the money, it's a great watch period. For the last month I've had trouble wearing any other watch.

Anyway, please forgive me for such a long reply (too much morning coffee) and thanks again for a great review!
Scott
Really enjoyed that positive experience you had and must say helping me purchase Steinhart products . Glad to hear the straight life aren't an issue for high many complain about .

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