hmm... I've never seen one of these before.. very interesting. Wait for help from an elder.
We need a Lip expert here, and I'm not it. However, my understanding is that the Lip R36 was developed in the inter-war period and therefore this watch could not be from the time of the Revolution. However if it was later, then it could not have a foreign brand signed in Cyrillic. It is worth bearing in mind that the first 36mm Soviet pocket watch movements had a bridge structure very similar to this (apparently derived from the Lip design), so it is more likely that you've got a 1950s Iskra or something similar that has a modified dial and a wristwatch conversion to the case.Hi folks.
I' m from germany, my name is Dirk.
I've got this watch cheep from a friend. On the dial is a russian sign. Its LIP.
My friend told me that this watch is from 1918. Does anybody hier know something about this or those watches?!
I am very pleased for any answer to LIP and my personal favorite new old watch.
Greetings from Germany.
Dirk
This is not a Russian-made movement. Note the Latin characters on the balance adjustment. In my experience, I have never seen a Russian caliber remotely like this. For that matter, I have never seen a Soviet-era Russian dial like this, either. Not even on any of the Gostrest Tochmekh watches locally cased from imported ebauches in the late 1920s.We need a Lip expert here, and I'm not it. However, my understanding is that the Lip R36 was developed in the inter-war period and therefore this watch could not be from the time of the Revolution. However if it was later, then it could not have a foreign brand signed in Cyrillic. It is worth bearing in mind that the first 36mm Soviet pocket watch movements had a bridge structure very similar to this (apparently derived from the Lip design), so it is more likely that you've got a 1950s Iskra or something similar that has a modified dial and a wristwatch conversion to the case.
...apart from this ZIM ChK-6 (item 0066 in your collection) :-d gotcha!This is not a Russian-made movement. Note the Latin characters on the balance adjustment. In my experience, I have never seen a Russian caliber remotely like this.
Okay, so my dementia is getting worse :-(...apart from this ZIM ChK-6 (item 0066 in your collection) :-d gotcha!
I suggest to search for LIP history. i do not remember-though i do have the article somewhere in my chaos- when LIP has been first established. But given the fact that LIP was a somehow cooperative and leftist experiment in France, relations with the soviet Revolution have been tight out from the beginning I guess. My first guessing is that yr watch is several yrs earlier than the ZIM-LIP one . It was a French-made LIP done for and shipped ready to the new Soviet Russia. If this LIP mechanism design dates back from the 20ies do not exclude the possibility that you have in yr hands one of the earliest post - revolution watches shipped to USSR somewhere in between 1920-30. This shall give reason to Mark who is reflecting that such mechanism type reminds him of very early watches....
Dedatos