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Greetings Paneristi,

I recently became interested in the beautiful PAM 564 8 Day Titanium model.

I am personally a fan of the sandwich dial. The one I viewed ay my local AD did not have the sandwich dial. Is there a reference to know which series have the sandwich and not painted dial?

Also, there is one being sold on EBAY without box and papers but "Guaranteed Authentic". It is a Q series, apparently with sandwich dial but it does not have an all white subdial seconds hand like every other example I have ever seen.

Is there an Authentic PAM 564 with a black and white subdial seconds hand?

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Greetings Paneristi,

I recently became interested in the beautiful PAM 564 8 Day Titanium model.

I am personally a fan of the sandwich dial. The one I viewed ay my local AD did not have the sandwich dial. Is there a reference to know which series have the sandwich and not painted dial?

Also, there is one being sold on EBAY without box and papers but "Guaranteed Authentic". It is a Q series, apparently with sandwich dial but it does not have an all white subdial seconds hand like every other example I have ever seen.

Is there an Authentic PAM 564 with a black and white subdial seconds hand?

Thanks ALL

Jake
The 564 is very nice, it was on my short list. And so light on the wrist. I believe Q is the last series with sandwich dial. Where are you located? I saw a 564(Q) with sandwich dial at Tourneau in San Francisco earlier this year.
 

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Greetings Paneristi,

I recently became interested in the beautiful PAM 564 8 Day Titanium model.

I am personally a fan of the sandwich dial. The one I viewed ay my local AD did not have the sandwich dial. Is there a reference to know which series have the sandwich and not painted dial?

Also, there is one being sold on EBAY without box and papers but "Guaranteed Authentic". It is a Q series, apparently with sandwich dial but it does not have an all white subdial seconds hand like every other example I have ever seen.

Is there an Authentic PAM 564 with a black and white subdial seconds hand?

Thanks ALL

Jake
Never buy Ebay. There are no cheap Panerai, just cheap fakes.
The 564 does not have a white subdial, so im not sure what you are referencing.
 

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Not the sundial
The seconds hand is All White in every one I’ve seen

On EBAY there is one with back and white seconds hand which I find suspicious

I’m wondering if there has been some variation in the color of the seconds hand in thismodel


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Not the sundial
The seconds hand is All White in every one I’ve seen

On EBAY there is one with back and white seconds hand which I find suspicious

I’m wondering if there has been some variation in the color of the seconds hand in thismodel


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That should be “subdial”


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Ok. I assume you mean the stainless subdial hand (not white)vs the black main time hands. That is the only configuration afaik.
 

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The 564 is very nice, it was on my short list. And so light on the wrist. I believe Q is the last series with sandwich dial. Where are you located? I saw a 564(Q) with sandwich dial at Tourneau in San Francisco earlier this year.
I am thinking the same thing (that the Q is the last series with the sandwich dial). Same situation as the 562, titanium base 8 days has the sandwich on the Q and changed afterwards. Best of luck with the search.


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Ok. I assume you mean the stainless subdial hand (not white)vs the black main time hands. That is the only configuration afaik.
Yes
The sundial hand is all white in the watches I’ve seen and in photos

The one on EBAY is black with white fill


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I am thinking the same thing (that the Q is the last series with the sandwich dial). Same situation as the 562, titanium base 8 days has the sandwich on the Q and changed afterwards. Best of luck with the search.


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Thanks

I’d post in the WTB but every time I do I get contacted by a scammer


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My 564 is a T series and has the cut-out dial. They're half way between a sandwich and painted. A google search should show you what I mean, I can't post a pick atm.
I LOVE my 564! Previously owned 312, 24, 210 and 590, but the 564 is my last Panerai, it's perfect to me.
I got lucky and picked it up through eBay for 60% of retail, 1yo and full set. I check eBay, the forums and various online pre-owned companies very often (OK, maybe obsessively :-/ ).
 
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