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I wouldn't worry what model it is or what year it's from. I hope you didn't pay too much. You should post a picture of the movement.
 

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I wouldn't worry what model it is or what year it's from. I hope you didn't pay too much. You should post a picture of the movement.
Why? does it look like a fake?
I was hoping to find some reference/model numbers so I can compare it to pictures of an original watch, fakes usually have some obvious flaws.

I will receive the watch next week or so and will be able to post a pic of the movement by then. If it's a fake I'll simply get my money back :) Thought it was worth a shot.
 

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It would be OK for you to post link to the ended auction (if bought on ebay) as part of general education of our members.
A Pateck Flippe! ;-)

I hope you got it cheaply. Are you going to complain?
 

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Well, for a start, it is a chronograph with the totalizers at 2:00, 6:00 and 10:00. That is immediately indicative of a quartz chronograph. I don't know whether PP ever made such watches but I have my doubts.....

Hartmut Richter
 

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Thanks for the replies, really appreciate the info.

I will post the auction and sellers info here if it turns out to be a fake (most likely).
The seller never sold any watches before, and sells some other vintage items like porcelain, stamps and records, so figured it's worth the gamble ;)

This was the only picture in the listing, so can't post any others yet. It also seems to be not working

Might sound naive but I've had some bargains this way in the past, like a spanking mint 1945 omega 30.10 with the original box and even the original 1945 strap and buckle on it :]
Was sold as-is non working but turned out it had some falling damage and was an easy fix!
 

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Well, caveat emptor, as they always say.

For another thing, come to think of it, I can't remember seeing a genuine Patek Phillipe with the Calatrava cross on the dial.....

Hartmut Richter
 

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PP did manufacture plenty of Quartz watches back in the 70-80's.
Today they still do, some ladies models are Quartz.

I was assured by the PP specialist at the lokal AD that it was manufactured totally inhouse.:-d

I do not know absolutely anything about PP, but I do not see PP designing a dial with such bad harmony.
 

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Thanks for the replies, really appreciate the info.

I will post the auction and sellers info here if it turns out to be a fake (most likely).
The seller never sold any watches before, and sells some other vintage items like porcelain, stamps and records, so figured it's worth the gamble ;) !
You say yourself that the seller is not a watches only specialist. A very strong possibility he does not know that the PP is probably a fake.
I do not think it really is neccessary to post his name.
 

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Hi -

If anything, the place to post is under "Watch Deals", where it belongs in order to warn others. Posting it here won't help much, as it will disappear too quickly as new posts are made. Watch deals works much better!

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PP did manufacture plenty of Quartz watches back in the 70-80's.
Today they still do, some ladies models are Quartz.

I was assured by the PP specialist at the lokal AD that it was manufactured totally inhouse.:-d

I do not know absolutely anything about PP, but I do not see PP designing a dial with such bad harmony.
Yes, you're right - PP made and still make lots of quartz movement watches. But never, to the best of my knowledge, a quartz chronograph!;-)

Hartmut Richter
 

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Yes, you're right - PP made and still make lots of quartz movement watches. But never, to the best of my knowledge, a quartz chronograph!;-)

Hartmut Richter
The seller has garantueed me it's original, if it turns out it's not I'm free to return it for a refund :) Low risk gamble :roll:
 

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The seller has garantueed me it's original, if it turns out it's not I'm free to return it for a refund :) Low risk gamble :roll:
You keep saying "if" - there is no "if" about it. It's a fake. You'll pay your money and the seller will vanish. You can't get a refund from a ghost. Why are you still holding on to the naive hope that it's real? If you WANT to give money away, paypal it to me and I'll at least post pictures of the AUTHENTIC watch I buy with the funds.

Post the link - I think we'd all like to see this seller for ourselves, particularly their history. Of course a scammer will guarantee his bogus item is real! Sorry to be so blunt, but you need someone to say it like that.
 

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You know what? Nevermind! Please buy that thing you've convinced yourself is a "steal". After all, it isn't my money. :-d:-d:-d:-d:-d There certainly will be some stealing going on.
 

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I searched on the net today, and could not find any Quartz PP Chronos, just like you said, Hartmut!

So, this is a truly unique piece!!!
How much does the seller want for this piece of s... sorry, unique horological instrument?

I would also ask him, if it works. Many Quartz movements give up the ghost after 20-25 years, and are impossible to repair!
 

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I searched on the net today, and could not find any Quartz PP Chronos, just like you said, Hartmut!

So, this is a truly unique piece!!!
How much does the seller want for this piece of s... sorry, unique horological instrument?

I would also ask him, if it works. Many Quartz movements give up the ghost after 20-25 years, and are impossible to repair!
yep it's not working, but that's probably because it's most likely a cheap hongkong movement ;) I'm just waiting for it to arrive to post more pics and info.. and yes I believe it's a fake..

But hey, what else can I do than wait for it to arrive, because I can't claim a refund while I haven't even received the item yet now can I?

@ ulackfocus: Thanks, I got the message. And no, you're not getting any :roll:
 
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