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I stopped at a pawn shop today to see what might be hiding in their cases. I look at this Tag Link thats marked down from $700 to $350. The watch is probably 95% save for a chipped crystal. It's the automatic movement, I think it's their calibre 5, please correct me if I'm wrong. This is a pretty good chip with a small crack leading toward the dial and I have to consider the impact and possible effects on the movement. It started up immediately and it seemed to run fine for the five minutes that I haggled to get the price down to $250. I'm guessing that a new crystal will cost around $300 for this watch. What do you guys think?
Oh, they also had a fake Omega speedmaster for $550 if anyone is interested.
 

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I'm guessing that a new crystal will cost around $300 for this watch. What do you guys think?
A new crystal wouldn't cost that much, a fraction of the cost you mentioned, unless you had to have a genuine TAG crystal~Cheers! ;-)
 

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Did you buy it? 100% sure it's genuine? How easy does a sapphire crystal chip? 90% of 'high end' watches I see in pawn shops are fake. I have seen fake Seikos in pawn shops.....If you know it's genuine then it's a good deal, if it fake it's not worth $2.50.
 

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The one I'm looking at is real. They actually have the Omega and another Tag marked as "imitation" on the price tag. I'm hesitant because I have standing orders for no more purchases for a while.
 

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The one I'm looking at is real. They actually have the Omega and another Tag marked as "imitation" on the price tag. I'm hesitant because I have standing orders for no more purchases for a while.
Please tell me you're not taking the pawn shop's word that the Tag you're looking at is genuine.
 

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if its real thats a deal, get the model number and serial number from the back. it has a double ar coating on the lens and the front and back display are sapphire, not mineral. most of the time mineral cracks and sapphire shatter's. might be a fake
 

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I felt sure that it is genuine until I read your post that it should have a display caseback. This one is solid and numbered as a limited edition of somebody with a japanese name. Does that sound right?
 

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New crystal will cost 100-150, and you will need to have it services for 300-400 to make sure there are no crystal fragments in the movement

It can be a deal if it is real...post pics
 

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This one is solid and numbered as a limited edition of somebody with a japanese name. Does that sound right?
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I've seen fakes from a Japanese mob that had (I think) Mt Fuji on the back as well as the faker's name. I don't know why unless they were doing this as some sort of dodge on copyright. I'd be very careful!
 

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I've seen fakes from a Japanese mob that had (I think) Mt Fuji on the back as well as the faker's name. I don't know why unless they were doing this as some sort of dodge on copyright. I'd be very careful!
Wow, no kidding. I didn't realize the forgers take themselves so seriously. I'll have to go back to inspect this thing more closely. It had the Tag logo on the case back but I didn't recognize the name. Can the numbers be googled to determine authenticity? Investigating this thing could prove very educational. Does this lesson plan include a syllabus?
 

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Wow, no kidding. I didn't realize the forgers take themselves so seriously. I'll have to go back to inspect this thing more closely. It had the Tag logo on the case back but I didn't recognize the name. Can the numbers be googled to determine authenticity? Investigating this thing could prove very educational. Does this lesson plan include a syllabus?
I know all the newer link auto's have a display back, I think some of the older models might have had a solid back but not for sure about that. Also look at the bracelet make sure the links are two parts, a left and a right link that connect together, a lot of the fakes just have a solid one piece link with a groove down the middle[not two piece link on a real link bracelet] to look like its seperate pieces.
 

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I couldn't get over there today to inspect it. Under the name was a date 1997-2002. If they will let me take pics I will post them if I can figure out howto:think:. I've not been able to on previous attempts. This forum is invaluable for education. Thanks
 

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This sounds very similar to something my old man picked up (also at a pawn shop). It is marked with the model number CN111B.BA0337 Limited Edition 1996/2000. I think the Japanese name you mention will be Yoshikatsu Kawaguchi and it also has the date June 2002 on the case back. Unfortunately it's as fake as Pamela's chest. Fortunately he only paid $40, however that's about $37.50 too much. The only thing you describe that sounds different is the automatic movement.... I don't think the piece of junk Dad bought has an automatic movement. I hope this helps and saves you some $$$. Cheers.
 

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Great thread, can't wait for your pictures
 

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Hi,
This sounds very similar to something my old man picked up (also at a pawn shop). It is marked with the model number CN111B.BA0337 Limited Edition 1996/2000. I think the Japanese name you mention will be Yoshikatsu Kawaguchi and it also has the date June 2002 on the case back. Unfortunately it's as fake as Pamela's chest. Fortunately he only paid $40, however that's about $37.50 too much. The only thing you describe that sounds different is the automatic movement.... I don't think the piece of junk Dad bought has an automatic movement. I hope this helps and saves you some $$$. Cheers.
That's the name on the watch, and that kills it for me. Although I was kind of looking forward to investigating it further I can't see the point now. Thanks for the info, I've no doubt that it's a fake now. Wonder if there's any estate sales today? Thanks again.
 

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That's the name on the watch, and that kills it for me. Although I was kind of looking forward to investigating it further I can't see the point now. Thanks for the info, I've no doubt that it's a fake now. Wonder if there's any estate sales today? Thanks again.
i thought i posted in this thread earlier:think:
my conclusion was to get out quick. they are selling a fake speedmaster for more than an "authentic tag":rodekaart:rodekaart:rodekaart no bloody way!
if that didn't set off red flags then .................:think:
 

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i thought i posted in this thread earlier:think:
my conclusion was to get out quick. they are selling a fake speedmaster for more than an "authentic tag":rodekaart:rodekaart:rodekaart no bloody way!
if that didn't set off red flags then .................:think:
So true! Gonna take the grandson to some brick and mortars with me for comforting reassurance... and maybe an impulsive purchase:-!...from an AD of course!
 
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