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First off, I am a rookie. I have finally graduated from designer (Armani, D&G, etc.) watches and trying to get my first man's watch, I guess I could say. Perhaps my choices aren't a part of the group but I am getting closer. I recently bought this Philip Stein watch (http://www.amazon.com/Philip-Stein-...RW/ref=sr_1_90?ie=UTF8&qid=1328882946&sr=8-90). I received it and am not as crazy about it as I hoped about a $1000 watch - possibly because the gray part around the dial is actually mirror-like. This ML (Amazon.com: Maurice Lacroix Men's PT6157-SS001-110 Pontos Rectangulaire Power Reserve Watch: Maurice Lacroix: Watches) caught my eye and now I have to make a fast decision if I should return the PS.

I have a thing for roman numerals but my Emporio Armani is already a steal with silver numerals on a black dial. I just also got a Tissot, steel with silver numerals on white dial. ML would be yet another numeral watch. I buy watches for occasions, and those that really stand out. Tissot is for work.....the PS or ML will be for fancy nights. I try to avoid buying the exact same watches so I don't have to retire older ones.

I would like to receive some opinions based on watch knowledge far greater than mine. You can rate them, say they're both ugly, etc. I haven't heard of PS but perhaps I liked its flashiness. In your critique, if you can teach me something brief a "watch guy" should know I would also appreciate that.
 

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Not a fan of that Philip stein, they don't pull off the dual dial very well. I'm generally a fan of ML but that rectangular face doesn't do it for me, so I'd say neither.
 

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My brother-in-law received a Phillip Stein from my other brother-in-law and he hates it. If I had a choice between the two, 10 times out of 10 I'd go with the Lacroix. For that amount of money, however...there are several other options. From the two selections you have it seems you preference the square dial automatic. Might I recommend either one of these Hamiltons which IMHO is better than both of those. Not only, you can save up to $500. Keep in mind as well, you can always buy the watch with the bracelet and later on add a leather strap, either OEM or Manufactured.

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Return the Philip Stein. It's just... not good. And you don't like it, so there's really no question. As to the Maurice Lucroix, I like the brand but I don't like that watch. I prefer the Hamilton posted above significantly if you're going to go square face.
 

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My small addition to the dialogue is the observation that the PS is a very unusual design, and if you don't love it now, and if you're thinking of returning it so soon after purchasing it, you will probably not get more attached to it. I'd send it back. (Frankly I don't like the style much, but I don't know anything about its quality.)

As for the ML, I like a lot of their stuff, though this isn't one of my favorite designs. But if you like it, go for it. The ML watches I've seen are good quality. Both my wife and I have an ML, and we are happy with them.
 

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+1 on the Hamilton, really nice watch (obviously has absolutely nothing to do with me owning the black dial non-chrono version) :)

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+1 Hamilton. The PS doesn't even compete, and I agree...if you are unsure now, it ain't going to get better. The ML...I have yet to warm up to ML as a brand, and the watch you selected doesn't help the situation. Good Luck on you selection!
 

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Ouch. I didn't expect the negativity on the PS. I usually get compliments on my watches but admittedly it's not from watch aficionados so I anticipated the comments. I'll have to figure that one out. I am not a fan of the Hamilton brand however the Perrelet is my style which I haven't heard of before. Appreciate the words anway.
 

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Perrelet is an old brand resurrected recently. Perrelet in the 18th century supposedly invented self winding and pedometer. Their watch typically sells for 4k to 10k, deeply discounted in the gray market. It is pretty simple to change straps, you can find the instructions online. Or take it to a watch repair shop to get it changed for $20-30. But the replacement strap of similar quality to the OEM strap will probably cost a lot more.

Another brand you can have a look at is JeanRichard. Some of their older models are deeply discounted on the grey market as well. If you are luck you may be able to find one of them with in-house movement for your budget.
 

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Whatever you like go for it. You'll get different opinions all across the board here. If it was me I'd go with either Hamilton or Maurice Lacroix. But not the ML that you posted I don't care for that model. Not a fan of Perrelet watches. Good luck.
 

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For $1000, you could do MUCH better than PS, an over-priced designer/fashion brand. It's only claim to fame is linked to recommendations from Oprah and the so called "teslar" technology (which sounds like a bunch of BS).
 

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I actually love this one but it's over the budget significantly. Amazon.com: Perrelet Men's A1021/1 Power Reserve Silver Sunburst Dial Watch: Perrelet: Watches


I would want a black strap. I have never changed straps before. Can this be done since this watch has a steel clasp attached to the band?

(Style question: do brown band watches need to be worn with brown belts/shoes?)
That Perrelet leaves something to be desired as well. It boils down to it's your money, get what you want, but you can do much better for less money. If you don't like the Hamilton try the...

Raymond Weil

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Or these Baume & Mercier

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All within the price range you posted
 

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Out of curiosity, why don't you like Hamilton as a brand?

Napel's recs aren't a bad idea at all. I think RW is getting better, but in the case of the Hamilton models rec'd and the RW models rec'd, I prefer the Hamilton aesthetically. Now the Baume et Mercier's...they beat them all, and in my experience you should expect a fit and finish superior to any of other brands mentioned. The RW's fit and finish may be on par with the B&M.
 

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I would also go to the Raymond Weil or the Baume et Mercier before the Perrelet. You're getting some good recommendations here, OP. I kinda want a square/tonneau watch now.
 

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I mentioned that I am new to the "watch guy's" game and I just never heard of Hamilton. I like their circular watches but not what I am looking for right now. It's hard to want to get a watch without having any brand identification with it. Same with RW. I do like these http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51LmTMZ3j1L._SS500_.jpg | http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41KOXrXmxjL.jpg - I also was not familiar with Perrelet until this thread but I have a great appeal to it. If I can just find a black OEM strap.

Also, the Perrelet I posted reminds me of a Guess watch I wore about 7 years ago that got the ball rolling on my attraction to watches. I think that is my favorite shape for a face. I am not too into the brown strap, however, and the steel is 2k more :(
 
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