[ZeroHour1313]

Please help- I received this watch as inheritance from my great aunt who I did not well - and cant find information on it I have no clue what its worth or who made it , THe markings on it are as follows;

The watch dial is Labeled Frank P Wilde- Milwaukee
The crescent case has the crescent moon and star- guaranteed 25 yrs numbered 1487666
on the movement it has no makers mark but has the number 1516906
21 Ruby Jeweled - inscribed on movement as well as Adjusted - and Safety Pinion inscribed
on the case there are rim around the movement it has the number 7666
That is all I know - an antique dealer looked at it for a few minutes and offered me 100 dollars but I feel that it is worth more as I think it dates around 1873-1904- so I passed on his offer as the movement and dial works great- holds time great
There are other hand inscribed markings but I cant decipher them. Thanks so much - Im brand new here and the help thus far is amzing as I posted in wrong forums and was directed to the gurus of this forum!!!

 

[Datreedude]

Hello,
Very nice watch. This is the information on this private label Frank Wilde pocketwatch:
Illinois Watch Company
Grade: 189
Possible Bridge Plate Design. Getty Model.
Movement Serial Number:1516906
Estimated Production Year: 1900
Run Quantity: 100
Size: 16s
Jewels: 21j
Jewel Material: Ruby
Movement Configuration: Hunting
Movement Finish: Nickel
Model: 4
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Barrel: Going
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Positions: 6
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Railroad Grade: Yes
Notes: Possible Bridge Plate Design. Getty Model.



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[ZeroHour1313]

Thanks so much!

 

[Datreedude]

Please refer to the forum rules and guidelines in regards to valuations on watches. In regards to your other collections, I have a lot of those as well, and you might possibly get bitten by the watch bug as well!


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[ZeroHour1313]

thanks for the tip

 

[HOROLOGIST007]

Hello,
Very nice watch. This is the information on this private label Frank Wilde pocketwatch:
Illinois Watch Company
Grade: 189
Possible Bridge Plate Design. Getty Model.
Movement Serial Number:1516906
Estimated Production Year: 1900
Run Quantity: 100
Size: 16s
Jewels: 21j
Jewel Material: Ruby
Movement Configuration: Hunting
Movement Finish: Nickel
Model: 4
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Barrel: Going
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Positions: 6
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Railroad Grade: Yes
Notes: Possible Bridge Plate Design. Getty Model.

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Hi
When I first looked at this watch movement, I thought 'Swiss Made' because of the bridge style.
named private label, using a Swiss movement?
Really this is an Illinois - american movement?

 

[Datreedude]

I wasn't really sure what the movement was either, but I thought I had seen it before. Just narrowed it down to the brands I knew it might be.


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[HOROLOGIST007]

I wasn't really sure what the movement was either, but I thought I had seen it before. Just narrowed it down to the brands I knew it might be.

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Ah!
My feeling that is a Swiss movement with the three finger bridge.

Maybe others will correct me! But I think Swiss

 

[AbslomRob]

Do a google search for "Illinois Pockewatch Getty" Adam; it's a pretty distinctive looking model with the single exposed winding wheel and the crescent shaped click. Rejecting the buyers offer of $100 was probably a good move; most of the "Getty" models on eBay sell for significantly more then that, and often with lower-quality versions of the movement.

 

[ZeroHour1313]

Thanks - you all are amazing at helping a new collector bitten by the watch bug the second hand does have a very fluid movement if that helps as well- Zerohour1313

 

[sherwoodschwartz]

Ah!
My feeling that is a Swiss movement with the three finger bridge.

Maybe others will correct me! But I think Swiss

illinois-

 

[HOROLOGIST007]

Thanks
Adam

 

[eri231]

Ah!
My feeling that is a Swiss movement with the three finger bridge.

Maybe others will correct me! But I think Swiss

you're right Adam
very similar to a movement Eterna
regards enrico

 

[HOROLOGIST007]

you're right Adam
very similar to a movement Eterna
regards enrico

Thanks Enrico.
Seemed it to me, appreciate your confirmation
adam

 

[RON in PA]

Adam: the three fingered bridge design, if not common on American watches, was used by Illinois as in this thread as well as Elgin who made many. Do a search for the Elgin 280. As far as other American companies I don't know.

 

[HOROLOGIST007]

Adam: the three fingered bridge design, if not common on American watches, was used by Illinois as in this thread as well as Elgin who made many. Do a search for the Elgin 280. As far as other American companies I don't know.

Thanks Ron
I never knew that.
Be seeing you soon, you can show me some good examples.
Still not sure if the OP posters watch is Illinois - see Enrico's post.
Thanks for posting
Sincerely
Adam

 

[Datreedude]

I have double checked this with the movements serial number, it is undoubtedly a Illinois movement.


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[HOROLOGIST007]

I have double checked this with the movements serial number, it is undoubtedly a Illinois movement.

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Thanks
Sorry to have questioned you.
A

 

[ZeroHour1313]

Thanks a million y'all ! I feel quite welcomed to this community having just joined this month! Thanks again-
Regards,
Nick
(does anyone know if this a desired type of watch or the rarity of it? ) Thanks for all the help again

 

[Ben_hutcherson]

The 189 is a superb watch-the best that Illinois made at the time.

You have a great piece!

And, yes, it is 100% an Illinois. To folks who look at very many of these, even the dial screams Illinois despite not being signed as such.