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That's interesting! I can't recall a black dialled PW of that age except those for military use (and the lack of lume on the dial makes it unlikely that it was intended for that). The hour and minute hands are almost certainly replacement (wrong style, too short) but the rest looks quite reassuring. Age? I'd say first decade of the 20th century.

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I dare say it looks remarkably alike an overpriced specimen available on our favourite online auction site.
Yeah Charon, maybe you're right. but I guess it is overpriced just until its owner knows its correct price and tries to figure it out . I once acted in a similar way: just only to the item don't flew away excessively cheap.
 

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Who did the service?
I don't know who serviced. probably the previous owner.
at the moment, the watch continues to run 37th hour.
but exterior... he was disgusting. all in fingerprints. I spent about two hours just wiping the dial. i also slightly polished the hands (they were all covered with oxides). the movement itself is also quite dirty outside... glass is not bad, and really mineral. but it has been installed not exactly.
after this service, there is still a lot of work
 

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but it looks like you already made up the information yourself?
the watch has nothing to do with military and hands are very wrong
 

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...I "love" ebay ....Imperial Russia .... WW1 ...served ...b-)...I don't understand your question and you seems to know a lot.

Yes, Moser sold a lot of on the russian market before 1917 but Pavel Buhre was the man for the official watches. Laikroducas is very polite to call these at least 50 years to young hands " more than completely" wrong. He miss to talk about the chip on the sub second. But the Devil is a squirrel and the buyer find the spare parts here: https://www.ebay.de/itm/ANTIQUE-6-POCKET-WATCH-MOVEMENT-LOT/183841768397?hash=item2acdd2c3cd:g:K9sAAOSwkpxc~VKs

The Senior Heinrich Moser (Hy Moser) was a fantastic watchmaker and business man. HE owns the company until he died in 1878. Afterwards the company was split in the russian trade group and the factory. THis is a nice watch out of the second aera. Good midclass generic movement with scratches, popular black dial with roman letters, nice size and no precious case. Special hitstorical collectors interest known: No ; Special technical aspects known: No; My personal review: Pretty and the hands have to be swapped. Presumable buyer profile:A pocket watch friend but not a hunting specialist for Moser or the russian watch historie.

Surely you did not want to hear that, but that's the way it is.

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Hello gentleman
I don't see any point in opening a new thread if I can ask a new question in the old thread.
Help me please with this watch.
Is this authentic hands, is this original dial?
and what about the watch case color? is it painted, or factory?
this is not my watch, and I have no other photos, unfortunately.
why i can't find any similar black dial/black case Hy.Moser in the web?
 

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Black enamel dials were relatively common. Given the repairs to the dial and the lack of wear to the black on the case It’s likely the case has been refinished.
 
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