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Hi all

Can anybody give me some info on this Aviator? I have looked all over the place for it but found nothing, is this an extremely rare model? I have had it for about 10 years now.

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Hi Andy,
I have the English version of the Polot/1stMWF catalogues from the year 2000 and 2003. Your watch is shown in the 2000 edition and not anymore in the 2003 edition.
Although your watch has all the looks of an Aviator, Poljot in their wisdom, were positioning it in the Military Watch Collection and not as an Aviator. That’s may be the reason you can’t find much information about your watch. Continue your search with the Poljot reference number: 3133/2543002 .
Here is a copy of the English catalogue mentioning and showing your watch.






As you might know, don't put much value on the production quantity of 999 pcs on the back. When a watch was popular a small chnage detail on the hands or slightly different dial would allow Poljot to produce another 1000 or 3000 pcs.

More info I can’t find.
Very nice looking watch btw !

Tammo
 

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Thanks! I don´t place too much value on those pseudo limited watches anyway. But I´ve never seen one up for sale after I bought mine.

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Tommo could you look at your catalogs and see if you can find this one there. If your catalog scans are available online, I'd love to get access and look around:

 

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Tommo could you look at your catalogs and see if you can find this one there. If your catalog scans are available online
This watch is not shown in any catalogues I have. The reason is simple, because this watch is produced after 2003, when 1st MWF went bust.

This watch is not an original Poljot from the 1st MWF,( possibly I will start a flame now) , but (I’m speculating) a so called put together from parts available from the old stocks of the 1st MWF. It is still available as old stock.

The reasoning being that just after the 1stMWF/Poljot went bankrupt several start-ups bought parts and made Poljot branded watches from them. ( According my source/ information they were even located in the same old 1st MWF building) The owner of the brand of the Poljot brand ( Mr. Ksenofontov) stopt this. As a result these watches show up from time to time as NOS/Old stock. ( And Volmax survived but still can not use the Poljot name, and now has to use the model/collection names instead i.e. Shturmanskie, Buran etc.)

So again, and this may be disappointing, to me these watches have nothing to do anymore with Poljot nor the 1st MWF.


And please note, my first name is Tammo not Tommo (Don’t worry I’m used to it. My friends in Moscow call me this way. ;-) )


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Well, I'm not sure that if the watch was not listed in some catalogs, it has nothing to do with the Poljot.
I got this one in Moscow officially from one of the "post-Poljot" companies.

http://forum.m-watches.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=34&p=61#p61

As you see at the last but one pic, it was even assigned a serial number. It is now a matter of definition, what to call "Poljot" and what not. Yes, this is the old stock, but if all the parts are from Poljot, why not to call the whole watch Poljot?
 

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Tammo, sorry to miss-spell your name, my hands are faster than brain and the spellchecker is not helping :)

Just like what Boris shows, mine includes a serial number and has a Poljot 31681 ticking in it. My hands are blue, while Boris's pic shows silver (?) hands. Boris, who did you buy it from in Moscow? Was it a post-Poljot company, or a small "artel'" in their old building there? I'm really curious.

I actually strangely like this watch. It's pretty well put together and now keeps good time after adjustment.
 

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Hello Tammo.

Since we're on the topic of identifying Poljot Chrono's - can you help me identify this one. It has a 31659 movement.

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I don't think there's any bad new. A pretty nice Poljot. My only issue with it is that it doesn't have a second rotating basel as many of them did. This is a later watch with no second crown.

I liked it on the pics and considered bidding on it, actually. Among other things I was thinking of getting my grubby hands on one of those Slavas - the one with Bluish/greyish dial and calendar/date.
 

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Whew - that's a relief.

I think the rotating bezel was dropped on the later chrono's and the 31659 chrono like this Poljot is later than the 3133 models.

I can't quite make out the "made in xxxxx" at the bottom of the watch. I don't think it says USSR, but I hope it's Russia. Not Albania (not that I have anything against Albania).

PM me about the Slava.
 

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Whew - that's a relief.

I can't quite make out the "made in xxxxx" at the bottom of the watch. I don't think it says USSR, but I hope it's Russia.
PM me about the Slava.
I can clearly read "Made in Ukraine" down there! :-d
 

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Great. I'll add the Poljot to my Ukrainian-made watch collection. I already have a Ukrainian Slava ... Maybe 2 of them.
 

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"Oh, Albanians make the best watches in the world, all the other watches are made by little girls" (sing it as Borat would) :)

I don't think it's a Ukrainian-Albanian project Poljot. I think it's made in Russia and is legitimate.

Watch22, I'll PM you later on about the Slava. Show us some pics when they all arrive, OK?
 

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Tammo, sorry to miss-spell your name, my hands are faster than brain and the spellchecker is not helping :)

Just like what Boris shows, mine includes a serial number and has a Poljot 31681 ticking in it. My hands are blue, while Boris's pic shows silver (?) hands. Boris, who did you buy it from in Moscow? Was it a post-Poljot company, or a small "artel'" in their old building there? I'm really curious.

I actually strangely like this watch. It's pretty well put together and now keeps good time after adjustment.
Mike,
that was one of the most famous post-Poljot companies, which i don't want to advertise since I'm interested in advertizing of another one :)
 

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Something like 5 years ago we have distributed probably hundreds of the Poljot watches assembled (absolutely officially) at the Kiev watch factory. All the parts were from Poljot, but on the dial stand "made in Ukraine". We have received NO watch back for repair...
Poljot is Poljot.
 

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Boris, I actually figured out who it is once you've mentioned the other company, went out and found it. They want about $400 for the thing now. Pretty steep. Are they allowed to use the name Poljot straight up like this?

Interesting that they've assembled Poljots in Kiev. That might explain Mark Gordon's recent purchase of a "Yanukovich Poljot". Do you know if it was Kleynod that was assembilng them, or was there another watch factory in Kiev? I'd love to see a pic of one with "Made in Ukraine" on a dial if you happen to have it.
 

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Something like 5 years ago we have distributed probably hundreds of the Poljot watches assembled (absolutely officially) at the Kiev watch factory. All the parts were from Poljot, but on the dial stand "made in Ukraine". We have received NO watch back for repair...
Poljot is Poljot.
I respectfully disagree. Poljot is/was the 1st MWF. Nothing else.
In Soviet times 1st MWF had a plant in Kiev producing movements, and other watch parts.So, yes there were likely a lot parts available in that branch of Poljot. But a Poljot watch with "made in the Ukraine " makes me :-s

What I don't like is that because of commercial interests, even on this forum, the history of 1st MWF is affected badly. Facts are not accepted, instead vague information without reference is mentioned just to justify the origins of a watch to increase interest or sales of that watch.

All the best

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I can clearly read "Made in Ukraine" down there! :-d

Just for reference: I was kidding about "made in Ukraine" I see on the dial of Watch22 chrono. I did not mean to stir up anything. Heck, I wasn't even aware Poljot had a factory in Kiev.
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