[ljb187]

This thread hasn't been updated in a while, what about an using a graphical representation of the international signal flag "Alfa" that ships use to alert other vessels that they've got a diver underwater:

If that's too plain, perhaps it could be depicted flapping in the breeze or it could serve as a background to another image, like so (the shark is just an example i
I found):

 

[ggray830]

Am I the only one out there that does not care for the circular serpent/dragon design in its current form? It reminds me of a tattoo template (I apologize if this is offensive to anyone with a dragon tattoo).

I prefer the designs with an overtly nautical/diver theme, especially the designs that include the diver's helmet.

Thanks guys.

 

[Kent108]

Agreed.

It's not just the disrespect to actual special forces operators. I've always thought that guys wearing "Navy SEAL" gear and the like when they weren't in fact ever SEALS was a bit pathetic, like a teenager who thinks he knows about war because he played "Metal Gear" in his mom's basement or something.

Sorry to double post but I also agree with the use of special ops / forces. It should not be included in any way shape or form.

 

[ASRSPR]

Agreed.

It's not just the disrespect to actual special forces operators. I've always thought that guys wearing "Navy SEAL" gear and the like when they weren't in fact ever SEALS was a bit pathetic, like a teenager who thinks he knows about war because he played "Metal Gear" in his mom's basement or something.

Or like people who wear Kingstons without licenses to kill?

 

[G-Junkie]

Am I the only one out there that does not care for the circular serpent/dragon design in its current form? It reminds me of a tattoo template (I apologize if this is offensive to anyone with a dragon tattoo).

I prefer the designs with an overtly nautical/diver theme, especially the designs that include the diver's helmet.

Thanks guys.

i don't care for that particular dragon myself, I also think it's overdone. the original is really a more simple dragon or even just a snake (which is what i prefer).

I do love the idea of the ouroboros, though. They're always depicted as a serpent of some sort eating its own tail. It represents going in a cycle or to a full circle. Constantly recreating and eternally returning to the same point. It's very similar to the rebirth of a phoenix. It can also represent unity

 

[enkidu]

I'm not sure how the flag will reproduce on the caseback. I'm torn between the idea of an ornate caseback and an austere more military style caseback. I like the diver's face with mask and rebreather or regulator, but want to avoid any special forces connotation. Perhaps a 1960's style mask + regulator? With crossed keyboards, representing the online/computer forum nature of the birth?

 

[ljb187]

For better or for worse, three more options.

1) Haven't fleshed it out yet, but picture MKII's logo comprised of the girders and other components in a rig, platform or other sub-sea structure. A few smallish divers could be placed in strategic locations working on the "logo/structure". An extra flourish could be to treat the flame or arc of the "welds" with a gold plating or PVD coating

2) An engraving of a clearance diver emerging from the water (add a Seamaster 300 of course!):

3)

I'm not sure how the flag will reproduce on the case back. I'm torn between the idea of an ornate case back and an austere more military style case back...

The blue could be suggested with by having multiple fine lines etched into that portion of the flag. Substitute the shark for the MKII logo and you'd have a case back that suits MKII's conservative/minimalist style:

 

[66Cooper]

I am a graphic designer and art director currently in the pharma world. We do this sort of thing all the time. From experience, I can say the best and most coherent logos come when our clients have a name and a particular brand strategy in mind. I am currently working on a logo for a drug that does not have a name. It is so much harder to get a great logo or mark when you can not tie it in with the name.

My suggestion for this would be to settle on a name (easier said then done) and then we can take a more direct approach with the logo.

 

[OmegaCosmicMan]

I agree completely and wholeheartedly. Thank you.

That is all.

Over and out.

Sorry to double post but I also agree with the use of special ops / forces. It should not be included in any way shape or form.

 

[OmegaCosmicMan]

I have seen this jpeg on Wikipedia while looking up some terminology used here that I did not completely understand. It is of course suggestive of the Sea Monster logo that Omega has used forever, but it is not exactly the same. I don't even pretend to know about copyright and trademark law the way some of you might, but throw this in as another option to discuss or perhaps incorporate.

 

[cpotters]

I have seen this jpeg on Wikipedia while looking up some terminology used here that I did not completely understand. It is of course suggestive of the Sea Monster logo that Omega has used forever, but it is not exactly the same. I don't even pretend to know about copyright and trademark law the way some of you might, but throw this in as another option to discuss or perhaps incorporate.

That is, indeed, a creature called a Hippocamp (or Hippocampus, or Hippokampii) the legendary half horse-half fish of ancient mythology. And yes, it is the same creature that inhabits the back of the Omega Seamaster case. I'd say there's too much confusion for that one to be used on what is already an Omega homage. Nice idea though, and the Hippocamp is NOT the only mythical Sea Creature out there. Courtesy of the internet, here are a few more suggestions"

• Aspidochelone, a giant turtle or whale that appeared to be an island, and lured sailors to their doom
• Capricorn, Babylonian Water-Goat, in the Zodiac
• Cetus
• Charybdis of Homer, a monstrous whirlpool that sucked any ship nearby
• Cirein-cròin
• Coinchenn, from whose bone the Gae Bulg is made in Celtic mythology
• Curruid, the sea monster who killed the Coinchenn
• Hydra, Greece
• Iku-Turso
• Jörmungandr, the Norse Midgard Serpent.
• Kraken
• Leviathan
• Proteus
• Scylla of Homer, a six-headed serpentine that devoured six men from each ship that passed by
• Sirens of Homer
• TiamatCetus
• Umibōzu
• Yacumama, South America

 

[OmegaCosmicMan]

Thanks Cpotters, I had actually looked up many of those, and was surprised to see that Capricorn was a mythical half goat-half sea creature being. (Guess that is where i was sleeping in school). Somehow having a watch that has a reference to a mythical goat doesn't get it for me. But the idea of some of those serpents or sea dragons is very intriguing, and coupled with the phoenix-idea of being devoured and reborn etc, the whole circular cycle fascinates, and that coupled with the way it could fit on the back, and make a border or frame of sorts for other designs has me thinking it will be a strong contender in the final decision. At least I hope so anyway.

Every time I read here I learn something new-Thanks again!

 

[garyscott]

When the final design is set, I suggest including a matching key fob. With my modified Tiger Shark I can admire the design while keeping the watch on my wrist!

 

[enkidu]

When the final design is set, I suggest including a matching key fob. With my modified Tiger Shark I can admire the design while keeping the watch on my wrist!

Nice! Wouldn't use a key fob, but a card protector/poker chip sized reproduction would be awesome for me. Just take your fob before drilling the hole and I'd love it.

 

[Yao]

i don't care for that particular dragon myself, I also think it's overdone. the original is really a more simple dragon or even just a snake (which is what i prefer).

I do love the idea of the ouroboros, though. They're always depicted as a serpent of some sort eating its own tail. It represents going in a cycle or to a full circle. Constantly recreating and eternally returning to the same point. It's very similar to the rebirth of a phoenix. It can also represent unity

I think this idea has possibilities.....

 

[Yao]

This thread hasn't been updated in a while, what about an using a graphical representation of the international signal flag "Alfa" that ships use to alert other vessels that they've got a diver underwater:

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If that's too plain, perhaps it could be depicted flapping in the breeze or it could serve as a background to another image, like so (the shark is just an example i
I found):

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I think the flag in principle sounds good but I think it will not come through well in just engraving. It makes for a good story though.

The other option, now that we got the name settled, "Project 300" is to just keep it simple with a military like format of "just the facts ma'am" case back. If anyone has a pic of the Stingray case back that might work well for this project as well. So now that we got a name chosen are people leaning towards something graphic or something more austere?

 

[Yao]

I have seen this jpeg on Wikipedia while looking up some terminology used here that I did not completely understand. It is of course suggestive of the Sea Monster logo that Omega has used forever, but it is not exactly the same. I don't even pretend to know about copyright and trademark law the way some of you might, but throw this in as another option to discuss or perhaps incorporate.

It would be interesting but too close to the bone I think.

 

[yikeslookout]

I'm just throwing this out there, excuse me if anyone thinks it's blasphemous, but why not have a sapphire caseback to show off the movement?

An "Elabore grade Rhodium plated ETA 2824-2 decorated with Geneva stripes" is spec'd out.

I realize that it's not staying faithful to the original SM300, but why bother having Geneva stripes in a solid caseback watch?

 

[ljb187]

The more I think about it, the more I think that fishes, snakes and flags aren't right for this type of bare-knuckles watch. I'd argue now that a simple MOD style case back would be more suitable and just as effective as something fancier (it might save MKII a few bucks too). To emphasis and enhance the simple nature of this idea I prefer the larger WWII style. Replace the pheon with MKII's logo, add the name of the watch (maybe even abbreviate it: Prj. 300 for added mystique), am "001/300" serial number and perhaps an issuing date and you're good-to-go!

 

[OmegaCosmicMan]

yikeslookout said-

I'm just throwing this out there, excuse me if anyone thinks it's blasphemous, but why not have a sapphire caseback to show off the movement?

An "Elabore grade Rhodium plated ETA 2824-2 decorated with Geneva stripes" is spec'd out.

I realize that it's not staying faithful to the original SM300, but why bother having Geneva stripes in a solid caseback watch?

No, Thank You. This feature you have proposed sounds like another thing to break and/or leak to me. I would favor avoiding unnecessary features that would decrease or diminish the long-term durability of this watch. :think: