[BigHaole]

After much delay the final answer regarding the name is: "Key West - GMT"

Maybe we can have a Cigar colored "Havana - GMT" as the general availability version of the white-faced "Key West - GMT", like the Nassau followed the Kingston?

 

[nuovorecord]

Re: Project GMT: Name discussion

After much delay the final answer regarding the name is: "Key West - GMT"

I hope to start mocking up the two dial and hand choices next week. Basically we need to decide:

* Small GMT hand or big GMT Hand (i.e. similar to what Rolex uses now)
* Whether the hour markers are the dial are just like the Kingston or if we should move them closer to the center of the dial as on some early GMTs. I believe this was done so that the Arrow tip of the GMT hand would not fall on-top of the hour markers and get lost at night.

Great news, Bill! I'm in favor of keeping it as close as possible to the original. So my preference would be for a small GMT hand, and the hour markers positioned as you described. Here's a good picture of what I'm referring to.

Thanks for the update!

 

[cpotters]

Re: Project GMT: Name discussion

Ok. One foot in front of the other. I'd want the dial to look as close to the original or, more specifically - as different from the current Rollie GMT - as possible.

 

[Packleader]

Re: Project GMT: Name discussion

Maybe we can have a Cigar colored "Havana - GMT" as the general availability version of the white-faced "Key West - GMT", like the Nassau followed the Kingston?

I like this suggestion, because one name represents the origin of the first Pan Am flight and the other represents the destination of the first Pan Am flight. It's like having a choice between sunrise and sunset. I'd choose both.

Cheers,
Packleader

 

[66Cooper]

Re: Project GMT: Name discussion

I love it!!! Key West, my Kingston is waiting patiently for your arrival.

On the configs. All the small details that may seem insignificant to the normal wearer (that does not apply to anyone here, haha) are what make the 6542 so amazing.
Small GMT hand
Roulette date wheel
Lume bezel (i know thats not happening)
No crown guard
Bezel teeth design

These are the things that really set these apart from what just about every other GMT made looks like in one way or another....and I LOVE IT!!!

From my research, it looks like the triangle extended past the minute ring, where the base of the triangle is almost level with the minute marks and the tip extends past the minute ring.

This isnt exactly right as you dont see the edge of the minute ring. Look at the Kingston. There is a space between the case opening and the minute ring. The tip of the triangle would float there. As its not pointing to anything on the dial but the bezel instead. Kinda clever really. Have the point leave the "live dial area" so that you dont confuse that hand with what is going on on the dial. Well, I might have just confused everyone with that. Haha, sorry

More like this:

Bill, if you need any help with the design of the dial/hands, I already have a pretty good start.

 

[Arthur]

Re: Project GMT: Name discussion

Ok. One foot in front of the other. I'd want the dial to look as close to the original or, more specifically - as different from the current Rollie GMT - as possible.

Charlie,
I'm 100% in agreement with you. I already have a 16750, so adding another one to the stable that looks the same would not make much sense. I believe that following closely to the 6542 is in keeping with what this project started out to be. Small GMT hand, chapter ring, Black/gilt, White/Black, Roulette date wheel, no crown guards. I would love to see a pepsi insert made of Sapphire or Lexan with lume numbers, but I'm afraid that isn't going to be and option.There are lots of GMT's out there that look like the modern Rolex GMT, lets not make another one!

 

[Yao]

This thread is for posting comments to the mock-ups and general design elements of the Project GMT. The name thread will be moved to the Archive.

 

[Yao]

Maybe we can have a Cigar colored "Havana - GMT" as the general availability version of the white-faced "Key West - GMT", like the Nassau followed the Kingston?

We can address this issue after the design is done. To be honest though I think there may be enough demand for the watch with the black and white options that a brown dial may be moot.

 

[Yao]

Re: Project GMT: Name discussion

More like this:

I hope I understood your gist of the dial design. But the lower picture is exactly what I mean. the hour markers are set closer to the center of the dial than the 6538 or even the later version.

 

[Watchamacallit]

Re: Project GMT: Name discussion

… the hour markers are set closer to the center of the dial than the 6538 or even the later version.

Excellent. Now that that's settled, do we also agree on a proud sapphire?

 

[Thieuster]

Re: Project GMT: Name discussion

66Cooper's pic of the watch is the perfect configuration for me. Nothing more, nothing less. Must add that -imho- a 'roulette wheel' needs a cyclops as well! Those two go together as peas and carrots (is it a proper saying or just a Forrest Gump phrase?).

About a proud sapphire: does it go well with the cyclop? Are there pics of that combination?

Menno

 

[Watchamacallit]

Re: Project GMT: Name discussion

About a proud sapphire: does it go well with the cyclop?

Menno, IIRC a cyclops wasn't going to be an option. Aside from that, it would only be possible on a flat sapphire, not a domed one. Whether the saphhire is proud - i.e. elevated at the side - or not shouldn't have anything to do with it.

I could be totally wrong, of course.

 

[Thieuster]

Re: Project GMT: Name discussion

Menno, IIRC a cyclops wasn't going to be an option. Aside from that, it would only be possible on a flat sapphire, not a domed one. Whether the saphhire is proud - i.e. elevated at the side - or not shouldn't have anything to do with it.

I could be totally wrong, of course.

Yeah you're right about the non-cyclops part of the design. I forgot about that - must be the great combination of the red date and cyclops combined ;-)

Menno

 

[Packleader]

Anything goes in a design thread, right? All ideas on the table.

I'd love something like this:

I've posted this picture before. It's an ultra rare version of the Rolex GMT.

The watch was 38mm, with 18k yellow gold, a white dial and a brown acrylic bezel. It was manufactured in 1958 and sold in Italy.

Cheers,
Packleader

 

[Thieuster]

Anything goes in a design thread, right? All ideas on the table.

I'd love something like this:

I've posted this picture before. It's an ultra rare version of the Rolex GMT.

The watch was 38mm, with 18k yellow gold, a white dial and a brown acrylic bezel. It was manufactured in 1958 and sold in Italy.

Cheers,
Packleader

My b'year watch, but that's about it, tbh. But you're right: anything goes, design wise at this stage.

Menno

 

[enkidu]

I know it's crazy, but I'd love to get a factory roulette destro version. As a backup I could swap in one of my destro 28xx date dials, but getting destro from the factory would be sweet.

 

[cpotters]

My b'year watch, but that's about it, tbh. But you're right: anything goes, design wise at this stage.

Menno

Menno:

We buy the same watches - including the TR-1000, like the same kinds of cars, and now I find out we're born in the same year. Lt me know when this starts getting a little creepy....

And yes, anthing goes. BTW, while I wasn't originally on board with this, the idea of a chocolate brown tropical dial with gilt lettering is - admittedly - intriguing.

 

[Reintitan]

My take on this:

Case: Same case as Kingston/Nassau (already decided)
Crown: Should be smaller than the 8mm/7mm crowns used on the Kingston/Nassau, perhaps 4mm - 5mm diameter?
Dial color: Glossy black dial with Gilt (gold) lettering
Dial colors: Black and maybe silver (white) as option
Dial detail: I prefer a chapter ring for the minutes, but even without a chapter ring as Bill noticed, the hour plots are moved closer to the center of the dial to accommodate the head of the 24 hour hand
24 hour hand: Small arrow head (all non-crown guard GMT-Masters -- 6452 and early 1675 non crown guards -- had the mini 24 hour hand)
Bezel Insert: sapphire insert ok, but aluminum insert ok as well
Bezel Insert colors: Pepsi for sure; All blue insert would be awesome

 

[aviate]

Re: Project GMT: Name discussion

Menno, IIRC a cyclops wasn't going to be an option. Aside from that, it would only be possible on a flat sapphire, not a domed one. Whether the saphhire is proud - i.e. elevated at the side - or not shouldn't have anything to do with it.

I could be totally wrong, of course.

Love the earlier pictures posted by 66cooper and now understand the original point about the marker location.

Regarding the cyclops, I don't recall it having been taken off the table...aren't there quite a few people involved that feel the cyclops is intrinsic to the design?

Thanks

 

[kkmark]

Not sure if the sapphire bezel insert is an option but this would really make it great.

Small GMT hand, roulette date wheel, hour plots closer to the center, yes to cyclops if possible.

Was thinking black dial but maybe a white dial would look great.