I did see other users ask simiar questions, In this case its not just a vetting forum its a discussion of a watch. I did not simply list a watch and ask a question I added content and my observations I think this is also a learning forum as well as discussions on warches. I notice you are a premium member with a lot of posts, your tone is very aggressive and literraly attacking a newbie, does not reflect well on you
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I think this one is a Frankenstein, but I could be wrong I believe the early constellations were 17J bumper watches, the 1st rotors were I believe 19J then they went to 24. Looks like a rotor on this one when it should have been a bumper so I think the movements off. Also when I look at the dial something seems off the seconds width seems inconsistent at the date, maybe a refinish dial? Its 37mm, at $299 dont know if it is worth it as a franenstein.
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Good point on the value, at what point is a Frankenstein worth collecting, (Not $$) if its got a great movement, good dial, etc....asesthetically pleasing, so many gold watch cases are being melted down and the movements/dials etc... disgarded.Try posting in the Omega forum
There may be more knowledgeable members there, though no one is interested in valuation. Maybe consider dropping the comment about value? After all, as a collector you are the only person who has to be pleased with the purchase.
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It would be great if you could post the constellations I have
Hi my refinished dial is a Gruen with a rare three red jewels on the dial one at 9,12 and 3 o clockExcited about the Deco watches! Honestly, I think you'll have more "eyes" (and possibly more comments, good and bad) in the Public Forum. But for those who have a passion for the style, perhaps the Vintage Forum is a better place to share the Deco pieces?
Lately (like, in the last couple months) I have rekindled my interest in the rectangular watches of the 30's to 50's. I'm having a couple of my grandfather's watches (a Gruen and a Bulova) restored. They are priceless to me, but as gold-filled watches they don't have much value. I started out collecting this type of watch in the late 80's because I saw them frequently at garage sales and flea markets then. I am particularly fond of Hamilton, though I look out for good deals on Bulova, Gruen, Longines, Lord Elgin, etc.
BTW, if your well-executed refinished dial is an old Hamilton, I just learned why many refinished Hamilton dials look so good, and don't seem to be a factor in terms of desirability (ask if interested, as your refinished dial might be from another brand).
Some people in the music world are constantly on the lookout for "The Next Beatles"....
Perhaps some people here are on the lookout for "The Next Trona" thread...
As to the watch, what's been said by others here rings true for me. Refinished dial, with (as you noted OP) anomalies around the date window. Likely a wrong movement, too. Also that crown...hmmm...
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Did the seller provide other photos.? I would say anything hidden (like that last digit) is a definite red flag. If there are other photos, could we see them? There may be more pertinent information in them. (like a serial number.) If these are the only two photos, request more from the seller. The seller's response will be telling.
Dont know what you did to enhance the picture, I thought there would have been a slight loss in detail on enlargement, and you did not have RAW versions to work with, but the new photos are fab , thanks for taking the time to improve them. I really like it when people with different skills get involved in the discussion
Really not going to re-engage in your justification of previous comments. I would respectfully ask for a positive value added contribution to this posting or comments on what we have learnt about the watch, I think a lot of us have found useful information from the comments. If any one reads this please also feel free to look for my new posting under vintage & pocket watchesI am a bully eh. Why don't you read my response to the OP's question in this thread and ask yourself why I responded differently in this post? Hint, it has to do with how the OP projected themselves with their queries —so, give me a break when it comes to who is the actual bully.
Real,fake, or frankensteined, Girard Perregaux?
I'm not really sure what to make of this, and I can't track down a proper reference for it. But can anyone identify this model? There is no "swiss made" on the dial and the date window is on the bottom right between the 4 and 5 indices. The caseback is also a complete fake, but the car seems to...
Interesting Omega Cal 420 screwback 1950s or 1960s watch
" Where I analyze a recent purchase thinking that its a Frankenstein and after various posters feedback realize its an original with a possible refinished dial!
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