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Spraying coffee out of my mouth when I saw this for a low BIN price (less than $25 shipped - who says there are no bargains), I'll admit I acted impulsively. And, in the aftermath, I'll admit I had a sinking "oh yeah" feeling - Albatros are supposed to be in the octagonal 470 case, right? But on looking into the matter further, I think I'm back to being happy.

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It doesn't hurt, of course, that it is in really nice condition, with nothing at all to mar the dial from what I can tell. An Albatros icebreaker in a 420 (I measured the sides) round case, but with the shallower case back not marked "automatic" and with a handwinding movement inside - presumably a 2409, though this one is sealed so tight I'm having issues.

The question of whether the Albatros were ever produced in something other than the octagonal 470 cases has been discussed before here, with conclusions in both directions. See, for instance:

https://www.watchuseek.com/f10/another-vostok-amphibia-albatross-9958.html

https://www.watchuseek.com/f10/correct-case-vostok-radio-operator-56198.html

https://www.watchuseek.com/f10/opinion-vostok-albatross-dial-392970.html

One of these previous posters claimed to have production papers as well.

Meanwhile, Michele has a round-cased Albatros radio room, and FWIW there are two other round-cased Albatros (one an icebreaker) in the Levenberg book - numbers 117 and 146. I'm not willing to bet the farm on it, but I'm starting to be comfortable that round-cased Albatros-dialed Amphibia may have been a production variant, probably from the transition between the case styles.

It's pretty, of course, and I'm going to wear it anyway. But what do you think?
 

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I'm pretty sure there were round case Al'batros with 2409 movement and therefore shallow caseback. Regarding your watch - everything seems fine, but I can't say for sure, I don't collect Amphibia / Al'batros systematically. If you have time and patience, you can browse two monster threads on watch.ru on Amphibia - a total of some 250 pages with pretty much everything on these watches. Great pictures there!
http://forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=61323
http://forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=820

Maybe you should compare your dial with octagonal Al'batros with similar dial. If you find some subtle differences, you can be sure that your watch is authentic. There are such small differences between round case and octagonal Al'batros radio room.

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Thanks for the links and the idea. With the icebreaker, maybe unlike the RR, there already seem to be a fair number of subtle variations - white to blue fade, cream to blue fade, silver dial...the icebreaker being far less rare, of course. (And yes, I'm jealous of your RR lineup.) But I'll look more systematically and see if I can detect anything.
 

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FWIW here are my Albatrosses. One sits on a weird case that I actually dedicated a thread to when I first acquired it.






























 

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I wouldn't have thought twice. Great watch mate. Enjoy.
I had the honor to try on this one, although the owner didn't agree to sell.



Spraying coffee out of my mouth when I saw this for a low BIN price (less than $25 shipped - who says there are no bargains), I'll admit I acted impulsively. And, in the aftermath, I'll admit I had a sinking "oh yeah" feeling - Albatros are supposed to be in the octagonal 470 case, right? But on looking into the matter further, I think I'm back to being happy.

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It doesn't hurt, of course, that it is in really nice condition, with nothing at all to mar the dial from what I can tell. An Albatros icebreaker in a 420 (I measured the sides) round case, but with the shallower case back not marked "automatic" and with a handwinding movement inside - presumably a 2409, though this one is sealed so tight I'm having issues.

The question of whether the Albatros were ever produced in something other than the octagonal 470 cases has been discussed before here, with conclusions in both directions. See, for instance:

https://www.watchuseek.com/f10/another-vostok-amphibia-albatross-9958.html

https://www.watchuseek.com/f10/correct-case-vostok-radio-operator-56198.html

https://www.watchuseek.com/f10/opinion-vostok-albatross-dial-392970.html

One of these previous posters claimed to have production papers as well.

Meanwhile, Michele has a round-cased Albatros radio room, and FWIW there are two other round-cased Albatros (one an icebreaker) in the Levenberg book - numbers 117 and 146. I'm not willing to bet the farm on it, but I'm starting to be comfortable that round-cased Albatros-dialed Amphibia may have been a production variant, probably from the transition between the case styles.

It's pretty, of course, and I'm going to wear it anyway. But what do you think?
 

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Thanks all, and nice watches. One very much like the one you showed passed me by, Jack, which probably contributed to my itchy trigger finger this time. I'll go look for your old thread, DolleDolf. There may be more Albatros upon the sea than are dreamt of in our Amphibia/Komandirskie classification philosophy!
 
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