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Hello!

I'm in need of your expertise! Trying to find out what kind of Oris watch Sam Neill is wearing in the first Jurassic Park movie for a project of mine. I only have this image (see attachment), which I found on Jurassic Park Legacy =|= The web's largest JP Information Resource
Hopefully I will find more images of it soon, perhaps from the bluray version. It's hard to make out the intricate details in this lowres image. It doesn't look like that guy found the exact match even though it's pretty close. His doesn't look quite as bulky?
I've been searching Oris own site, several watch databases and different forums and no luck so far. They only seem to list newer watches. Tried using those exact words as in the image when searching in google and can't seem to find any matches.

Any clue? :)
 

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Jurassic Paul, you're either going to love me for finding this, or hate me because now you have to buy another watch ;)

Grant's wristwatch has been previously identified as an Oris 450 cal, shown here:


And here is an actual screenshot of the watch, the best out there:


Take a look at the case lugs (the areas to the right and left of where the strap meets the watch) Notice the angles and almost faceted appearance of them.


The Oris doesn't have these and the sides of the lugs curve and blend into the curvature of the case:


Going by the best screenshot we have of the watch in the movie (above), I matched the watch to a 1945+ military issue "ORD" Department field watch.
The military had watches produced by most of the major US watch manufacturers during WWII, each fitting a certain set of standards, but they each had very minor differences. This case style with the more angular lugs came out in 1945 I believe, and was utilized up through the Vietnam war. It is known as the 1917-H case. Do a google search and tons of images come up.
There were 4 brands in particular that utilized this 1917-H case... Waltham, Hamilton, Bulova, and Elgin. The differences between these 4 are all VERY minimal:


First, lets take a look at some interesting points of the screenshot:

First, notice where the wording starts in relation to the number 11. This pretty much cancels out Elgin as Elgin's is a very narrow wording and starts relatively close to the 12.
Second, notice the gap between the hand pivot and the top of the sub-seconds dial. The only one to match this gap is the Waltham.
Last, notice that if you draw a line from the top of the 7 to the top of the 5, it goes OVER the hand pivot of the sub seconds dial. Once again, only Waltham matches here:


The only point I can see against the Waltham being the one is the fact that the screenshot we have doesn't appear to have two lines of text whereas the Waltham does. Well after analyzing frame by frame movie scenes I can tell you that the entire brand name disappears in most scenes at distance anyways so the likelihood that the distance and camera blur obscured and made the watch face appear to only have one line is completely possible. Heck, it's even hard to distinguish the detail on the hour hand in the good screenshot!.



I'm going with Waltham as Grant's watch now, until further evidence comes along.
 

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Jurassic Paul, youre either going to love me for finding this, or hate me because now you have to buy another watch ;)

Grant's wristwatch has been previously identified as an Oris 450 cal, shown here:


And here is an actual screenshot of the watch, the best out there:


Take a look at the case lugs (the areas to the right and left of where the strap meets the watch) Notice the angles and almost faceted appearance of them.


The Oris doesn't have these and the sides of the lugs curve and blend into the curvature of the case:


Going by the best screenshot we have of the watch in the movie (above), I matched the watch to a 1945+ military issue "ORD" Department field watch.
The military had watches produced by most of the major US watch manufacturers during WWII, each fitting a certain set of standards, but they each had very minor differences. This case style with the more angular lugs came out in 1945 I believe, and was utilized up through the Vietnam war. It is known as the 1917-H case. Do a google search and tons of images come up.
The 4 brands that would match Grant's watch the best would be Hamilton, Bulova, Waltham and Elgin. The differences between these 4 are all VERY minimal.

I am going to focus on Hamilton and Bulova because their faces match just a little bit more than the other two.


The Waltham has two lines of text that don't rerally match the screenshot:


With the screenshot:

Take note that the crown matches the Hamilton in the middle's crown with the gap, but this is simply because it is not screwed down tight.

Bulova looks to be the closest match to the screenshot picture if you take into consideration the size of the sub-seconds dial and where it sits in relation to the top of the number 7.


I have found these with a larger sub-second dial so watch for that when looking for your own. The smaller dial overlaps the numbers. These cases usually have more pointed crown guards too:


Sam Neill has a family with a 200 year military history and his father was a British soldier so it's only fitting of him to wear a military watch, even if it is a US model. Bulova would make sense here too, as it is the only model I've seen people make mention of the company selling the specific model to other countries after the war.
So, the hands were changed at some point before the film was made? Or, am I just not seeing them correctly?
 

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So, the hands were changed at some point before the film was made? Or, am I just not seeing them correctly?
I think you're just not seeing it correctly. In the screenshot between the hour and minute hand you can kind of see where the little bulbous hour hand gets fatter near the tip. It just doesn't carry over well because of the image compression. Also these watched these days don't always have perfect colored like areas like the examples shown and usually turn dark, also possibly why the screenshot hands look like they don't have that "brighter" section running back down the middle.
 

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Ok, so after staring at my initial thread and the screenshot of the actual watch, I have re-vamped the entire second half of the thread because i noticed a few things. I now believe the watch to be the Waltham. Re-read my post...
 

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This is one crazy thread. The amount of research here by all involved parties is downright impressive.
 
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