San Martin upcoming releases // Speedmaster 38, RPX 40, Datejust 36

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Foxthemulder

Discussion Starter · Mar 11, 2022

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I was browsing the San Martin Taobao store, I usually do it to check the reviews and photos posted on newer San Martin watches.
I saw that San Martin announced 3 new exciting watches for pre order :

1. Speedmaster 57

My favorite new release : 6 colorways
38.5 mm, 13 mm thickness and 47.5 mm Lug to lug.
ST1901 movement.

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2. Datejust 36

36 mm, 11 mm thickness and 44 mm lug to lug
PT5000 and SW200 movement
A lot of colorways (They are overdoing the "tiffany" thing)

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3. Surprising PRX 40 :

3 colorways : Blue, Black and Silver
40mm, 10.5 mm thickness, 45 mm lug to lug
Miyota 9015 movement

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What do you guys think ??

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Alex_B.

· #2 · Mar 11, 2022 (Edited)

Even though i like these releases i think they should slow down a bit and make sure to get every release right on first try. I’d like to get the Speedy chrono copy but because they’re releasing so much the thought comes up what if they’re going to do a smaller black bay chrono or a daytona i may like more or later on do a better upgraded version. The pagani design approach of copying everything makes me hesitant to get anything and has me wondering if quality and qc isn’t going to go down.

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Foxthemulder

Discussion Starter · #3 · Mar 11, 2022

Alex_B. said:
Even though i like these releases i think they should slow down a bit and make sure to get them right on first release. I’d like to get the Speedy chrono copy but because they’re releasing so much the thought comes up if they’re going to do a smaller black bay chrono or a daytona or later on do a better upgraded version. It’s making me hesitant to get anything.

I agree with you on this point, I would preferred if they could of done a V2 of the Vintage GMT, or even an upgraded SN0019 instead of releasing a new watch every couple of weeks.
Their BB Chrono is maybe discontinued, it's not listed anywhere anymore !!!!

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Alex_B.

· #4 · Mar 11, 2022

I don’t know where i read it but i read the bb chrono will be back in stock somewhere in april. It’s still on their Aliexpress page as well so I don’t think it’s discontinued.

Fergfour

· #5 · Mar 11, 2022

PRX for me no contest.

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david_martin

· #6 · Mar 11, 2022

I want an OP no date 36mm if they would do something like that in the future.

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SenileSexline

· #7 · Mar 11, 2022

What's cool is that the PRX homage is going to have a higher beat rate than the actual product.

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Fergfour

· #8 · Mar 11, 2022 (Edited)

SenileSexline said:
What's cool is that the PRX homage is going to have a higher beat rate than the actual product.

For my needs the 9015 is fine because I don't need a super long power reserve and yes a 8bps is nice. I also like the no-date, non-textured dial of the SM.

john_marston

· #9 · Mar 11, 2022

Those Speedmasters look sick, and I'm not even a big Speedmaster fan. Mechaquartz and lower price and I'd get one. But ST movement..so saves me money haha

The PRX I find odd. It will probably cost the same as the Tissot quartz version. Are people really going to pay for a knockoff just to get a Miyota 9015? Seems silly to me, personally.

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SenileSexline

· #10 · Mar 11, 2022

Some folks just don't like quartz watches and 4 Hz is better than 3 Hz. The 80 hour reserve at the expense of beat rate is not a good deal.

Personally if I ever end up picking one of these up it would be in quartz but for someone wanting to go with automatic these offer great value.

Cincinnatus

· #11 · Mar 11, 2022

john_marston said:
Those Speedmasters look sick, and I'm not even a big Speedmaster fan. Mechaquartz and lower price and I'd get one. But ST movement..so saves me money haha

The PRX I find odd. It will probably cost the same as the Tissot quartz version. Are people really going to pay for a knockoff just to get a Miyota 9015? Seems silly to me, personally.

In general I would prefer a 9015 powered watch over a quartz, but I think you're right in this case. When an homage starts getting this close to the real thing in terms of price, I'm not sure how much appeal there is for the homage. But you know, different strokes for different folks.

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Omegafanboy

· #12 · Mar 11, 2022

I would be very tempted by that PRX design with a white dial and applied hour markers outlined in black.

I am not sure why San Martin are making these when they already have the SN013G design. I would prefer them to do more dial option with that model as it has a nicer bracelet. Saying that I prefer the case on this PRX.

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Foxthemulder

Discussion Starter · #13 · Mar 11, 2022

john_marston said:
Those Speedmasters look sick, and I'm not even a big Speedmaster fan. Mechaquartz and lower price and I'd get one. But ST movement..so saves me money haha

The PRX I find odd. It will probably cost the same as the Tissot quartz version. Are people really going to pay for a knockoff just to get a Miyota 9015? Seems silly to me, personally.

I dunno ... 10.5 mm thick automatic watch is out there on the quartz territory, blowing it out of the way taking into account the San Martin finishing (this is just my personal opinion).
According to SM Taobao store, the PRX will be priced at 1750¥, so basically in the 280/300$ range, that's 80$ cheaper than the PR Quartz.
I wouldn't buy it personally tho.

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Gazza74

· #14 · Mar 11, 2022

Am I looking at this wrong? Is the PRX model ~ 600 Yuan, or about $100 USD?

Foxthemulder

Discussion Starter · #15 · Mar 11, 2022

Gazza74 said:
Am I looking at this wrong? Is the PRX model ~ 600 Yuan, or about $100 USD?

They are still on pre order.
They usually do something like this for all their new releases, you pay 750 Yuan to have one, and in 2 months time, you pay the rest (1000 yuan).

Gazza74

· #16 · Mar 11, 2022

Foxthemulder said:
They are still on pre order.
They usually do something like this for all their new releases, you pay 750 Yuan to have one, and in 2 months time, you pay the rest (1000 yuan).

Thanks. It's a little unclear from the translated taobao page.

dmvmb

· #17 · Mar 11, 2022

Hopefully San Martin will make an all stainless steel fluted prx model.

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sdiver68

· #18 · Mar 12, 2022

Surprised they didn't downsize the PRX 2-3 mm given the concern many have with it being quite large with a true lug-to-lug close to 52mm.

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Catalyzt

· #19 · Mar 12, 2022

Oh, God. Why did they have to do this?! And with 100m WR? Why couldn't it have 50m WR, or some other feature I really hate? (I spend a lot of time in the water.)

I thought I would be done with speedmaster homages and variants when I got a real one.

Nope. The real one just made me love every other version more. (I just got an SSC815.) It's like when I take the dogs for a 5-mile walk, and they don't come back tired-- they come back rowdy and crazy, crashing into furniture and throwing shoes into the air. (And one of them is at least 12.)

IMHO-- and I don't have any San Martins, though I've looked at many and come close-- they had to do solar quartz or ST1901, there are a million speedy-like battery-quartz options. I think St. Martin will probably do a very nice job casing the seagull, and it will probably be very reliable. I have a Vertigo Pilot One with a Seagull, and it's been just stellar-- in a completely different league from my Alpha Paul Newman, which died in about 18 months.

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Oakenfield

· #20 · Mar 12, 2022 (Edited)

Huh, I don't know why but those PRX rub me the wrong way. It's the first time I'm having negative thoughts about a homage. I guess it's because the original one, specially in quartz (which in my opinion is the right one to get), is already affordable enough. Like, a homage of a model or reference that's not made anymore? Sure. Even a reference still being made but it's very expensive, I get it. But a Tissot? Uhm...

I wish SM did more their own designs. Look at Maen, they have a consistent design language. SM could be like that. Sure, "inspired by", but with their own twist. It's a shame that a brand that's supposed to have significantly better quality and QC than the others from that part of the world still makes mostly homages.

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