Seamaster 300 with Spirate, Would You Buy It?
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Id sell the Submariner if this came out. Let’s hope you’re right.
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Fair point about the original size.
In that case reissue the Omega Admiralty, which was a 37mm diver.
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The market may not be there, but Omega has been known to simply experiment with 'creating' a market. Consider the many re-issues they've done in the past few years...how many of them were actually 'asked' for prior to release? The only one I can think of was the 321 in stainless steel, but due to the cost, it's out of reach for many first-time collectors.
In the normal range, we have things like the Seamaster 300 with the lollypop hand in black and blue (I think based on the original 14755). A beautiful watch, but was anyone asking for one? The lovely sector dial Omega CK 859, which only suffers in design due to the hour and minute hand being too close in size....was anyone asking for one before it came out? I could continue, but you get my drift.
Omega could easily come out with the 165.024 with big triangle, but these things need to happen 'at the right time'. Right now, they have the new Ultra Deep and the Bond Seamaster 60th Anniversary...it would be stupid to release another diver that is 'special'. I'm sure Omega knows which models sell the best per region....where I am, my AD says that the normal Seamaster Pros fly off the shelves, especially if they have the black or white versions. The Seamaster 300s are never in the AD for a long time at all, but I have yet to see an Ultra Deep.
I think Omega could release it in, say, 3 years from now to coincide with the anniversary of the introduction of the big triangle (1966 or 1967 approx.?). So, wait until 2026 and see what happens. That's what I'd do if I was Omega, anyway. I'd price it around 9-12k USD, and it would have the best movement available, along with the usual modern Omega stuff (see-through caseback, independent adjustable hour, differing lume colours on the handset and bezel, etc.). I'd make it no-date, of course, and with a ceramic bezel that is fully lumed like what you see with the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms.
What say you?
In the normal range, we have things like the Seamaster 300 with the lollypop hand in black and blue (I think based on the original 14755). A beautiful watch, but was anyone asking for one? The lovely sector dial Omega CK 859, which only suffers in design due to the hour and minute hand being too close in size....was anyone asking for one before it came out? I could continue, but you get my drift.
Omega could easily come out with the 165.024 with big triangle, but these things need to happen 'at the right time'. Right now, they have the new Ultra Deep and the Bond Seamaster 60th Anniversary...it would be stupid to release another diver that is 'special'. I'm sure Omega knows which models sell the best per region....where I am, my AD says that the normal Seamaster Pros fly off the shelves, especially if they have the black or white versions. The Seamaster 300s are never in the AD for a long time at all, but I have yet to see an Ultra Deep.
I think Omega could release it in, say, 3 years from now to coincide with the anniversary of the introduction of the big triangle (1966 or 1967 approx.?). So, wait until 2026 and see what happens. That's what I'd do if I was Omega, anyway. I'd price it around 9-12k USD, and it would have the best movement available, along with the usual modern Omega stuff (see-through caseback, independent adjustable hour, differing lume colours on the handset and bezel, etc.). I'd make it no-date, of course, and with a ceramic bezel that is fully lumed like what you see with the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms.
What say you?
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I'm not sure the idea "there isn't a market" will stop Omega doing anything. Was there a market for a little flying Snoopy caseback? No but the hype kicks in and they are impossible to get.
Anyway, this will be too thick, too expensive, or both for me.
Anyway, this will be too thick, too expensive, or both for me.
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I'd love to see this model too, but can't see a price tag under $7,500 if it's not limited. More importantly would it be a limited production over $10k nobody will view until 2024.
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I have always loved this watch - iconic - quintessential diver
I think a re-issue would be the Sub killer -all the best of modern material/movement tech with the classic 300 design cues - a winner. I'd pay the £7k and it could even be an exit watch for me.
meanwhile - we can but pretend
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I think a re-issue would be the Sub killer -all the best of modern material/movement tech with the classic 300 design cues - a winner. I'd pay the £7k and it could even be an exit watch for me.
meanwhile - we can but pretend
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The Spear-ah-tay Schpring (😏) will surely be launched in more and more models over time, but sparingly. At this point, it‘s a roughly $2,200 upgrade and for plenty of people METAS is perfectly fine. Over time the price disparity will come down, as the traditional hairspring models increase in price and the volumes of the Spirate also increase.
As to which models will have Spirate next? Only Omega knows.
As to which models will have Spirate next? Only Omega knows.
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That’s nice looking but why so thick? Crystal?Certina PH500M looks very similar. A bit thick though, at 15mm.
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Except people cant buy Rolex by just walking into a store and paying retail.
They have also been increasing prices every single year (sometimes multiple times per year) for the past 3 or 4 years now. While also simultaneously forcing ADs to lower or eliminate discounts.
This is the proper way to compete against Rolex in my opinion. Going the opposite direction will just turn Omega into another Tudor, no thanks.
The most likely next dive watch from Omega will probably be an updated PO with Spirate and O-Mega steel. Wishlist features might be thinner case and ditching the HEV thanks to tech from the Ultra Deep.
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Crystal is definitely protruding quite a bit on that watch. I'm guessing the 500m water resistance probably plays a role as well.
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But they can, and they do. Despite what the internet hype machine would want us all to believe. Might need a short wait but OPs, Explorers, Subs - all should be achievable for a good number of new buyers (not picking on you here, I just see this repeated so much and felt it worth offering a counterpoint).
It will be interesting to see where Omega goes. I think they could fall into a bit of a tough spot as a brand - essentially being squeezed a bit - and they are clearly using technical innovation as a value-add to justify moving further up the pricing ladder. At the same time those technical innovations are being rolled out, they seem to be leaving behind the enthusiast market that would actually value them most. It will be fascinating because they know what they are doing, I just can't quite make sense of it at this point, from the outside looking it.
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