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Re: Seiko Diver's 1965 Modern Re-Interpretation SPB143J1 / SPB147J1 / SPB149J1

I was just wondering about the case shape and dimensions of these versus the SLA017, the diameter is slightly bigger (40.5mm vs 39.9mm for the SLA017), but not to be noticeable. Nearly a millimetre thinner than the SLA017 and pretty much the same lug to lug distance. There is the addition of a beveled edge along the case, which looks to soften it in comparison to the SLA017, which appears almost brutally slab sided (in a handsome way!). What concerns me, now the initial child-like excitement has passed, is that the bezel looks quite thick (I think someone already said this.....) and I'm wondering if this will unbalance the look......
 

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Re: Seiko Diver's 1965 Modern Re-Interpretation SPB143J1 / SPB147J1 / SPB149J1

It's a valid concern but, looking at them side by side, I actually like the thicker bezel vs. the SLA017. I am hoping it will make the watch look a bit smaller when on wrist.

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What worries me is that it turns out to look like the Armida A12. There's something about this case design that is on a knife edge (IMHO), it can look fantastic (SLA017) or can look like it's got a massive chin (Armida A12). Hopefully the photos illustrate what I'm saying......









Also, whilst I was looking back at my photos of the Armida A12 I found these comparisons between the SBDC051 and the Armida....





.....considering the size difference between the two it's interesting.

I'm wondering if the thicker bezel accentuates the lugs?
 

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Ah crap. Now that I've seen them side by side, I prefer to older model with the thin bezel. Seeing them compared like that, the 14x's bezel is really wide.

I don't know if I can unsee that.

Between the bezel width and the price, I might be out fellas. I guess I'll put this in the maybe pile until I see what the street price settles at, and see some on-the-wrist shots.
What with the lack of clarity on pricing for the none LE versions, when they'll be available and the bezel width it sounds like waiting until some in the wild shots are out there is wise.
 

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Re: Seiko Diver's 1965 Modern Re-Interpretation SPB143J1 / SPB147J1 / SPB149J1

I wouldn't worry at all, the armida is...how can I be nice about this...not a nice or well designed or executed watch.
Hmmmmm, firstly we'll have to disagree on Armida's quality. The Armida was, for the price point especially, well finished and robust. Not shoddy in any way.

Secondly you're missing my point, which was about geometry and proportions. The point I'm making is that small changes in the proportions, such as the bezel width in relation to the case size and dial size can significantly alter the look and feel of a design. Seiko seem to have changed the proportions/geometry here and that's what is concerning me.

Look at the slew of 62mas homages there were and how these all looked subtly different depending on how the interpretation of the original dimensions.......
 

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Re: Seiko Diver's 1965 Modern Re-Interpretation SPB143J1 / SPB147J1 / SPB149J1

Ok fair enough. I also see what him mean about the lugs on the Armida and don't think it'll apply to these seikos
One would hope they'd not screw it up, but who knows. Either way this and the price have dampened my enthusiasm. I'm still keen but will check back in June to see what the reviews say.........
 

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Re: Seiko Diver's 1965 Modern Re-Interpretation SPB143J1 / SPB147J1 / SPB149J1

Looking at the A12 I was always held back by the lug proportions. They appeared slightly too long for the case design to my eye and I believe also left a gap between the case and strap.

Like the original this case style benefits from short lugs I think.

For the 14x series the lugs appear to be short and proportional to the case for my tastes and the additional bevelling to smooth things out looks great.
I'd agree, but I remember poring over images of the various 62mas homages (no way was I forking out for the SLA017......) and they all had subtle differences that changed their looks, so hence my concern here with the bezel width.......
 

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Whilst I'm not interested in the LE version, the others particularly interest me, so was wondering if anyone knows about the scheduled release dates? I'm presuming that the Seiko catalogue error, where they showed all the models early, means a date hasn't been scheduled, especially considering the covid-19 crisis......
 

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The 40 mm 65 is a very nice vintage style diver, one of the best re-issues IMHO. I think Oris hit it out of the park with that one. Had one in the basket more than a few times... never consummated the deal!
It's a lovely watch.....



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Saw this......

https://halifaxwatch.com/products/seiko-spb143j1

Yikes, over £900 in sterling. A tad salty for me if this is correct.....
Not sure if it's been mentioned here or not, but the new SPB149J1 is priced at £1200 GBP. It's now on the Seiko UK site.
Haven't seen this yet, but that's quite a ridiculous price TBH especially considering the price I saw on the other website......

Edit: sorry we're talking different models, my bad.....
 

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Ah, another chronic flipper? I'm with you on that.

Some you can require, some are gone for ever.

My biggest regrets: SARB059 and SARB021. Gone forever. The 021 was a masterpiece: the cuts in the markers caught any light from any angle.

Reaquired, in the last year: Damasko DA47 and Sinn 856.
Was a chronic flipper, but not any more. However, looking through the list of watches bought and sold does bring a tear to the eye. A case of there's always something better around the corner*........

* - which is just another watch.
 
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