It's ridiculous. You can get seiko SRPB07j1 for 200$. They looks about the same. I'm not paying 800-1000$ for the watch that cost 200-350 used in the past 2 months.


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It's ridiculous. You can get seiko SRPB07j1 for 200$. They looks about the same. I'm not paying 800-1000$ for the watch that cost 200-350 used in the past 2 months.

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Looks like the SRPB07J is sold out from a number of vendors....wonder if Seiko will make more....

 

It's a nice looking watch, probably my second favorite SARG, after the SARG007. As a replacement for the SARB field watches (Alpines), however, these two SARG's were just a bit of a let down, IMHO, with lower WR. Sort of took the more robust edge off compared to the SARB017 and 059's.

But were the SARG's around long enough to become "classics"? The SARG's came out in 2013, and the 009 you are referring too (and its siblings) came out at the end of 2013. They are larger, more "modern" sized cases (>40mm x >47mm), compared to earlier Seiko mid-teir watches, like the smaller sized SARB line (<40mm x <47mm).

While Seiko has put a lot of emphasis on its dive watches lately, and re-introduced some, albeit oversized, classics, they seem to be loosing their way a bit when it comes to true, robust built, field watches, like the Alpinists, and the military "Hamilton" style SARG009. This style seems to be only found now in the 5 series and other lower end Seiko's. I don't see a mid-tier, robust, Seiko pilot style, with a clean look, like the Sinn or Damasko 3 hand, non-chronograph watches.

Only the SARB017 is left, hanging on by a thread, to those bygone days. Something tells me that will soon get retired as well, perhaps to replaced by a more modern "interpretation": another hockey puck with Monster hands, that might be robust enough to survive a brief encounter with a lawn sprinkler.

 

Not worth anywhere near $800. Not even $500. People are just throwing high numbers out to see if they can get it.

 

And oddly enough the few I've seen listed for sale at ridiculous prices have sold.

I had one back when they first came out. It was okay, but that's about it. Nothing to write home about IMO.

 

Sure it's not a limited edition, but it's just already been discontinued.

I ranted about it recently, but what I basically said about what I guessed from the situation was that Seiko is trying to keep the 6R movements on more premium pieces. Now, for example, when they have new similarly 40mm "field"-style watches running on 4R movements.

 

I love the 6r15 movement, but there are way better choices for less money easily available.

 

I would not buy it... this price increase has nothing to do with the watch. its all about greedy dealers and watch buyers who used this opportunity to make a profit. Those people have a lot of patience and exploit the fact that somebody desperately likes the watch. This is one of the aspects I really dislike about this hobby. The SARG is a mass produced watch... eventually you will find a reasonable priced one.

 

This is common with many hobbies. Once a desirable item gets discontinued the resellers take advantage. I see it in model kits and Lego sets all the time. Now it's happening even more with Seiko watches.

 

It seems that the best thing we can do is just simply not to buy. Yes, sometimes it's not that simple, somehow I still want it, but all used item prices are directly related to customers - if no one buys, prices just goes down..

 

^ I agree. Just never thought the SARG009 was that desirable. Didn't notice this with the SARG series until the 007 was going for $1500 on the bay.

 

(feels minor twinge of annoyance that i never went for a SARG011 when i had the chance)

 

(feels the same about my LNIB SARG009 that I sold for 275$ last fall 2016...)

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I like the font on the dial since the BrightZ line but this is just toooo BIG and ugly..like the new EXPII by Rolex..hands don't match with the style and see the end-pieces..

I think this "%" looks better

 

Simple. Supply and demand. Sold one a year ago for less than $300 if I remember correctly.

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Had a new sarg009 and put it for sale for 800 or 900. You know, just trying my luck.

Amazingly it did get sold. Buyer was pretty happy about getting it.

Did see many try to sell for over 1000, not sure if a deal was made.

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What really gets me is that Seiko is loosing its touch, but to most of the fans it doesn't matter. I mean nowadays you can't buy a Seiko diver without QC issues (well, you can, but you have to be lucky enough), there are gaps between case and bracelet endlinks, movements are being downgraded.

Still there are many who says - "yeah, but it's a Seiko - it's a legend. I will buy it no matter what".

 

I have a sarg011

It's my favorite watch in my very modest collection

i hope the prices get back to reality because if they go much higher, I may be tempted to move it

 

I can easily buy a SARG009 dial for a good price, I just need some pointers on which watch I can incorporate the dial onto? I can always find a watchmaker to do the installation....

 

I agree with you AK2112, I mean there were a certain amount made and just guessing whatever that amount was is far too many to keep the price up or for that matter "climbing" to even higher levels. I just hope that the price begins to stabilize a bit, if not I also might be tempted to sell mine as well, and I really wouldn't want to because I like it so much. But for me common sense rules and to make a profit on one for what I originally paid is a given, I can always buy another one when the prices get back to the norm.

 

Recently Seiko have stopped production of one of the classics... Should I look at something else?

In short, yes.

If its selling way above its RRP, its technically overvalued. Use the money to buy something where you get more value.

 

I've been on the hunt for SARG009 for a couple of years, then as mentioned above they discontinued and the price went through the roof, not a month later the SARG011 followed suit and went high too. I bought an SRPB07 hoping to scratch the itch and figured I'd enjoy it anyway as I love the whole 3, 6, 9, 12 look, particularly the ranger.

The 07 is nice, but I was disappointed with the quality, the application of the numerals is far to light given the style of watch and to add injury to insult they are not lumed either which in my mind was a major oversight. The numbers are also a little big against tiny minute markers, and the fact that I couldn't get a match or comfort on a strap has relegated this to nice, want but not pressing my buttons. A month ago I scored a SARG009 being sold as a SARG011 on leather with no bracelet but pre-discontinued pricing, snapped it up immediately. Watch arrived and it is in a different league to the 07.

You can see the difference with the quality in numbers immediately, and the white in silver hands lifts the look way above white in white in the 07. The size of the 12 & 6 are fairly similar but in with the SARG they are in a smaller case and have a bigger impact. Similarly the creamy tint to the SARG as opposed to the copy paper white of the 07 makes it stand out a little more.

At $300 I consider the SARG a fantastic watch, at a price not too far behind I consider the 07 a disappointment, particularly given its Presage association.

I actually had a WUS member PM me multiple times trying to sell me a new SARG and when I told him my budget for this particular watch he didn't even bother to respond anymore.

Someone made a comment about Seiko losing its way in the field watch segment earlier and I tend to agree with this, Citizen and to degree Pulsar have some excellent value field watches that just fit that budget end grab and go Hamilton style.

I actually think despite being a regular watch the SARG series will be if not already iconic and we will probably see prices come down, but not to the levels of last year.

 

Instead of a SARG009 you can buy this with this kind of money.

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A very good suggestion! The 556 A is a true classic, one of Sinn's best sellers, with a pilot watch heritage. Great build quality, and QC, so no misaligned chapter rings etc. Excellent CS from the AD, Watchbuys.

The SARG was certainly a good value at $350, give or take a few bucks, with sapphire, exhibition back, and a 6R15. But that value proposition starts to fade as the price goes up ... I'd say IMHO it goes from a "good" to "fair" value up to maybe $450, then falls off fairly quickly.

A Sinn 556 is a cut above the SARG line. For about $1,000 you can get an actual $1,000 watch, vs. paying nearly as much, and 2 - 3 x the original cost, for the SARG. For that you get a top grade Sellita SW-200, a high-beat, Swiss made movement, and a robust 200M WR. I've had 2 Sinn's, and they are very well made, robust watches.

 

Whatever the market will accept seems to apply here. No question the prices are inflated. However, I saw a solar baby tuna which sold retail 500 actual around 350 limited edition freemans sporting club up on ebay for 1598! I think it is a cool watch but um no.

 

It took me by surprise to see listings for these watches at such inflated prices after being discontinued. The Orange monster has gone up as well, then the SARG. Makes me wonder if I should buy a Alpinist before they are gone as they may well follow the same path.

 

This might be a good idea. Seiko seem unpredictable in cutting production without warning. I'm holding on to my SARG 007 right now, had no idea when I bought it that production would be so short.

 

It's not like this is a big surprise to me. I read an article a few months ago talking about what a fantastic bargain the 009 and 011 (didn't know they existed until then) were and that they were being discontinued. I seriously thought about buying then but talked myself out of it. The prices now are about what I figured. There are lots of watches selling way above what the materials and workmanship merits just because of scarcity. Usually they are micro brands though.

 

i may be in the minority here... but i'd rather get a brand new SARW015 instead of a used SARG009 for the same money.

from the Presage range, the SARW has (arguably) a better if not more interesting movement and still available new with warranty...

edit: (JPY RRP of SARW015 is about double that of SARG009)

 

I may also be in the minority here but IMHO the appeal of the SARG009/011 is to the 'Sinn-look' collector.

I came late to the party and recently had the funds - I bought from a brilliant seller here (taelorh12 - he's voluntarily rescuing folks from the Houston flooding at present - what a guy).

 

There are plenty of bad intention people that I bet read this forums but never post anything. All they do is see where the discussion is, what sells, what is discontinued and can't wait to jack up prices.
Every time I post a for sale here I get lowball offers from people that never posted anything. I look them up by their user id and sure enough non postings ever.