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As mentioned the other day, After a long time of wanting but not making up my mind about buying a blue sumo, I finally bought one last saturday. After spending a few days wearing it, I've come to realize that many of my expectations where well placed, while others, surprisingly, where not quite met.

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General impression: The watch is big, but oddly, it wears much smaller than I thought it would. This is largely due to lugs that curve both inward and downward; a bezel whose insert slopes down away from the crystal; and a 20mm bracelet. It is my form belief that all of this was intentional on seiko's part, as a means to reduce the watch's otherwise prodigious bulk. Let's just say that if this thing had straight lugs and a 22mm or 24mm bracelet, with no other change, it would wear as a massive piece.

Bracelet: this is one of those areas where I expected better. There are nice touches, such as solid endlinks and adjustment points running the entire length of the bracelet. however the bracelet is considerably thinner than I expected (the Monster's 20mm bracelet is noticeably more substantial). while this helps reduce the watch's bulk, I can't help but wish that it had had a bit more mass. the clasp, while nice, is a standard Seiko spring loaded fliplock with a flip type wetsuit extension. It's nice enough, but nothing we haven't seen before on any number of other 9less expensive) seikos.

Case: This is the watch's strong point. the case is a feast of curves, finishes and elegant engineering solutions. The curving multifaceted lugs are reminiscent of similar examples from omega, though not exactly the same. I love that seiko included drilled-thru springbar holes, which they don't typically do in their divers. The ost impressive parts of the case are how the lugs meld into the scalloped sides and turn into a bezel shroud. This is a truly beautiful piece of industrial design. very elegantly done. the crown recesses into the side of the case in much the same manner as seiko's high end divers have done for decades - a nice clean and tried and true design.

Bezel: the bezel is surprisingly large. the diameter is big enough, but well balanced with the size of the watch. What I'm talking about is the vertical width. This thing is thick, but thanks to the case's pseudo shroud, most of it's bulk is very elegantly hidden from view. the effect is quite striking. I'm a little disappointed by the insert design. I'm not talking about the print, which we have all seen, but rather about the physical design. Pictures make it look as if it far more angled than it actually is. the same is true of the domed crystal's curvature. In reality the outer slant of the insert is minor (visible but not that pronounced), and the crystal's curvature is minimal. the end result while obviously slanted and curved is actually almost flat.

Dial: I loved the classic simplicity of the dial design, and I'm a huge fan of it's midnight blue color. however there applied indeces are almost flat, which makes them not as substantial as several classic and/or less expensive models (such as the SKX171). The result is one of slight empty space, which some might like or some, such as myself might find a little vacant. Don't get me wrong. the indeces look great, I just wish they were a little more 3-dimensional, as with other seiko divers. the dial surface is completely devoid of texture. with this much dial real estate, if ever there was a watch that could invite unique dial texture, this is definitely it. I have no complaints with the hands. unique design and classic seiko goodness. It's lume is classic seiko brightness. It is at least as bright as a Monster, maybe (dare I say) even a bit better.

Movement: I've been very impressed with it thus far. Not only has it worked flawlessly, but I have been very impressed by it's very long power reserve. I've only used the hand wind feature once, but I experienced no problems of any sort with it.

Overall: I REALLy like this watch. It is a solid classy and unique piece. the blue looks black to most people, so I'm guessing the the black is similar, which means that they are both very understated, despite their unique good looks. If you want an extroverted version go for the orange. It has been a great companion with suits all this week. however, the watch is not perfect, and those little quips have only served to rekindle my desire for a Marine Master (which will be a companion to the sumo, not a replacement).
 

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Nice insight.
 

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The blue or black ones dont do much for me but the orange SBDC005 on rubber strap is a different story. Looks gorgeous... it is currently my grail watch and will be the most I've ever spent on a watch :)
 

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Re: A Small Review Of The Seiko SBDC003, Blue "Sumo"...

As mentioned the other day, After a long time of wanting but not making up my mind about buying a blue sumo, I finally bought one last saturday. After spending a few days wearing it, I've come to realize that many of my expectations where well placed, while others, surprisingly, where not quite met.

General impression: The watch is big, but oddly, it wears much smaller
than I thought it would. This is largely due to lugs that curve both inward and downward; a bezel whose insert slopes down away from the crystal; and a 20mm bracelet. It is my form belief that all of this was intentional on seiko's part, as a means to reduce the watch's otherwise prodigious bulk. Let's just say that if this thing had straight lugs and a 22mm or 24mm bracelet, with no other change, it would wear as a massive piece.

Bracelet: this is one of those areas where I expected better. There are nice touches, such as solid endlinks and adjustment points running the entire length of the bracelet. however the bracelet is considerably thinner than I expected (the Monster's 20mm bracelet is noticeably more substantial). while this helps reduce the watch's bulk, I can't help but wish that it had had a bit more mass. the clasp, while nice, is a standard Seiko spring loaded fliplock with a flip type wetsuit extension. It's nice enough, but nothing we haven't seen before on any number of other 9less expensive) seikos.

Case: This is the watch's strong point. the case is a feast of curves, finishes and elegant engineering solutions. The curving multifaceted lugs are reminiscent of similar examples from omega, though not exactly the same. I love that seiko included drilled-thru springbar holes, which they don't typically do in their divers. The ost impressive parts of the case are how the lugs meld into the scalloped sides and turn into a bezel shroud. This is a truly beautiful piece of industrial design. very elegantly done. the crown recesses into the side of the case in much the same manner as seiko's high end divers have done for decades - a nice clean and tried and true design.

Bezel: the bezel is surprisingly large. the diameter is big enough, but well balanced with the size of the watch. What I'm talking about is the vertical width. This thing is thick, but thanks to the case's pseudo shroud, most of it's bulk is very elegantly hidden from view. the effect is quite striking. I'm a little disappointed by the insert design. I'm not talking about the print, which we have all seen, but rather about the physical design. Pictures make it look as if it far more angled than it actually is. the same is true of the domed crystal's curvature. In reality the outer slant of the insert is minor (visible but not that pronounced), and the crystal's curvature is minimal. the end result while obviously slanted and curved is actually almost flat.

Dial: I loved the classic simplicity of the dial design, and I'm a huge fan of it's midnight blue color. however there applied indeces are almost flat, which makes them not as substantial as several classic and/or less expensive models (such as the SKX171). The result is one of slight empty space, which some might like or some, such as myself might find a little vacant. Don't get me wrong. the indeces look great, I just wish they were a little more 3-dimensional, as with other seiko divers. the dial surface is completely devoid of texture. with this much dial real estate, if ever there was a watch that could invite unique dial texture, this is definitely it. I have no complaints with the hands. unique design and classic seiko goodness. It's lume is classic seiko brightness. It is at least as bright as a Monster, maybe (dare I say) even a bit better.

Movement: I've been very impressed with it thus far. Not only has it worked flawlessly, but I have been very impressed by it's very long power reserve. I've only used the hand wind feature once, but I experienced no problems of any sort with it.

Overall: I REALLy like this watch. It is a solid classy and unique piece. the blue looks black to most people, so I'm guessing the the black is similar, which means that they are both very understated, despite their unique good looks. If you want an extroverted version go for the orange. It has been a great companion with suits all this week. however, the watch is not perfect, and those little quips have only served to rekindle my desire for a Marine Master (which will be a companion to the sumo, not a replacement).
Hi Isthmus, too bad about your disappointments on the Blue Shogun er...I mean Sumo. It is a very nice looking watch despite the shortcomings. Maybe a more solid bracelet would take care of that issue. But I agree with you on the indices, they should be more substantial. Maybe the strongly designed, and good looking case will offset the other issues.:)
 

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Thanks for the awesome review...

now to find my black sumo..

I just picked up my black sammie today...and got it for a great price locally from a buddy here at work - so lucky! great price and no waiting for shipping etc!

but yeah...whos got a mint used sumo for me? lol
this review is making me want it more and more and more and more and more...well you get the picture
 

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great review and thanks.
and now for a question that has nothing to do with your watch or review but something I noticed in the pics that I have noticed on other watches as well and it's about time I asked somebody.
How come the tail end of the minute hand hangs out over (and obscures) part of the hour hand?
Many watches do this and I just can't help but think every time I see it that it's not utile.
It just plain don't make no sense.

what-EVERRRR
dude I just like totally had to get that off my chest or something.

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If Seiko offered a orange dial Sumo with metal bracelet, now we would be talking! However, a orange dial Sumo with a nice leather band MIGHT be a close second behind a black dial/metal bracelet model.
 

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Thx for great 'mini review'. I will get one too one of these days. I tried it at a Seiko dealer and love the fit. Didnt pull the trigger then...but have been thinking of the Sumo for a while. :-d
 

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Hi Isthmus, too bad about your disappointments on the Blue Shogun er...I mean Sumo. It is a very nice looking watch despite the shortcomings. Maybe a more solid bracelet would take care of that issue. But I agree with you on the indices, they should be more substantial. Maybe the strongly designed, and good looking case will offset the other issues.:)
No, don't misunderstand. I am far from disappointed. there are simply things that I see that seiko could have done better. It's a great watch, just not perfect, and despite it's similarities in appearance, it is no Marine Master.
 

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If Seiko offered a orange dial Sumo with metal bracelet, now we would be talking! However, a orange dial Sumo with a nice leather band MIGHT be a close second behind a black dial/metal bracelet model.
IIRC, either Seiya or Higuchi (but I think it was Seiya) was adding the bracelet to the orange one for an additional price.
 

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very nice review. and yes, gooo for the marine master.

by the way, fyi bourmb, there is an orange sumo with bracelet.
I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. AFAIK, there is not. Most of the folks who have bought them that way, have purchased them from Seiya (or was it higuchi) who was adding the bracelet for an additional price.
 

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...there are simply things that I see that seiko could have done better. It's a great watch, just not perfect...
Well, if they made it perfect...we wouldn't need to buy the MarineMaster then, would we ;-).
 

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i've thinking about getting a sumo for a while - the 6R15 movement seems fantastic...

but i just can't warm up to 12 hour marker with the little line... which we all know what it looks like... ;)
 

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i just can't warm up to 12 hour marker with the little line... which we all know what it looks like... ;)
That design has been in use for a very long time by various brands and personally I find the joke to be rather tasteless. I mean no one ever coments on the design of the 12:00 marker on a Citizen NY0040 which looks like a pair of tighty whities showing some butt crack:



If the NY0040 is not worthy of these types of comments, then lets keep them off the board in relation to the SBDC divers. Sorry to be a pain.
 
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