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Hello folks,

About ten days ago, I received my very first mechanical watch: a Seiko SNZG15 J1. Since I've been reading the forum a lot to help me chose the right model, I decided to write a review too, hoping this might help other newcomers in the Seiko / cheap mechanical watches world.



Looks and apparent quality : I had never owned a watch of this quality before (always had cheap noname quartz or lately entry level digital Casios - the later are actually fine for plastic made watches) so I was very pleased when I opened the box to discover a really well made and beautiful object. I instantly loved the case made of proper, flawless blasted steel, the feel of the crown, the finish and proper alignment of the date display, ...



However, I must second what others have said about the nylon strap : its fine looking when worn and not looked at too closely. But, when you look carefully you can tell it's cheaply made (see pictures). It's also not very confortable at first as it's quite a hard fabric and the side that faces the wrist has some "nylon weldings" that are quite itchy (see pics). Needs a couple of days of breaking in anyway. I'd say it does the job ok but I'll probably replace it sooner or later.





The lumebrite thing is amazingly powerful : it glows at night like nothing I'd seen before on a watch! Actually you can even see it glowing in daylight. Lasts long too, after 7-8 hours, though faded, it still glows enough to tell the time. The second hand has lumebrite too, and it's quite nice to see it moving at night. I have however a little complaint here too : when you look closely (see pictures), some of the lumebrite patches have been applied with less care than I would have expected. For instance the triangle on top doesn't perfeclty fit the white printed triangle on the dial. Same goes for a couple of hour markers (see pic below). Like I said, you need to look closely, but once you know it you can't help noticing it and feeling like those lumebrite spots have been glued there by your 4 year old. Don't get me wrong, I love the watch and am aware that at this price (100 euros) it can not compete with 5000 euros++ Rolexes, but I think this little flaw had to be told.



Concerning accuracy, well I have been VERY pleased. My job requires relatively good accuracy, let's say less than 10 seconds of difference wih atomic time. I even used a Casio Waveceptor before receiving the Seiko and I wondered if a mechanical would do the job. The 7s36 being a non-hacked mechanism, I also wanted to avoid having to fiddle with the crown everyday to set the time while trying to have the handles properly aligned, etc. Well it's been an accuracy delight so far! Depending on my level of activity during the day, it takes or lose up to -4/+4 seconds in an average day of 16 hours (sometimes less, sometimes it even stays dead on time). It seems that the more I move, the more seconds it loses - the less I'm active, the more it gains (seems counter-intuitive to me lol). This is fine by me. When night time comes, I just either lay it flat face up to gain back a few seconds or lay it on it's side to lose back a few, and when I wake up in the morning it's right back on atomic time (-1/+1) for a fresh day. I sure hope it'll stay that accurate in a couple of months (have read that it might either go bonkers or settle down after that period of time)...

In the meantime, I really really love that to regulate it, I just have to change the way I lay it on my night table. It's actually way easier than using the crown like I used to on quartz watches. This all makes this watch like a living thing and I really like that too. There's a real pleasure in checking the accuracy before going to bed, or at various times during the day just for fun, and discover that it has gained or lost one second and link that to my level of activity. I can really accept that kind of "inacuracy", that is well within my specs. Well, it actually makes me passionate about this watch. I don't think I could go back to a quartz.



Regarding the size, I have a small wrist (16 cm) and I hesitated a lot (like others on the forum) with the smaller and even cheaper SNK 809. Well I'm really happy with my choice because it doesn't look too big at all. Actually, I think I could even go for a larger watch next time. The SNK809 would have definatelly been too small (that's a shame really cause I love its looks).

One last note regarding the Hardlex Crystal. I can't compare with anything except plastic crystals found on my previous watches. Those got scratches in a couple of days of light use (no sport, etc.). The Seiko's still immaculate. That's all I can say for now.

To conclude, despite its little flaws, it's really a nice watch that has given me confidence in buying more Seiko 5 in the future.

That's all folks.
 

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That's a really nice watch, I'm using one exactly like yours right now.

That's my everyday watch and use it without any care, my crown and glass now have some scratches but I can't blame the watch, it was an accident and the watch saved me from quite a lot of damage... he got lightly scratched in my place.

One thing I noticed is that your wrist's less polished than mine. It doesn't bother me at all and feel somehow smooth against my skin.
 

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Hello all,

Just thought I'd share a little update on my beloved SNZG15. I've owned it for about 6 weeks now. It started losing about 7 seconds a day consistently. Now I'm ok with that kind of accuracy, only that it's a pain to set it back on track when it has lost time. It's much easier to do when it has gone too fast forward. So I decided to regulate it, using the info from this page and from various topics on WUS forum.

Having no watchmaker tool, I wrapped the case in a sandwich plastic wraper and used an old caliper as a caseback opener. It worked great, did not slip and did not scratch the case. The thing is that you need a confident hand, and apply the strenght as evenly and progressively as possible. Other than that, the caliper trick worked great. As I don't have a watch clamp either, I just wore a leather glove on the hand holding the watch to have a good solid grip.

Having read so many things about how the regulating lever is "the lever from hell", and how "thou shall barely touch it" and "even if you don't think it has moved, it actually has... well once the case opened, I almost didn't dare approaching it!
I actually had to open the case and try and regulate it three times, because the first two times it seemed the slight nudges I gave the lever weren't hard enough and did nothing at all to the timekeeping of the watch. The third time was the one, I actually felt the lever move slightly. I thought "I hope it's not gonna gain 10 seconds a minute now!" I closed the caseback and turned the watch face up, hoping the second hand was not moving like an aircraft's propeller! Well, it wasn't. The time keeping has been most excellent since then, about 2 weeks ago : about +2 seconds/day.

I would like to add, for other first time regulators who might want to try this at home, that instead of trying to move the lever from a 90° angle, holding the tool perpendicular with the case as I first tried, I found it way easier to approach the regulating lever from a very flat angle, holding the tool (mini screwdriver, toothpick, ...) almost parallel to the case. It gives much more precision to the strenght you're applying.

One last note, about the Hardlex crystal : At this point with any other watch owned before, it would have had several small but visible scratches. I've worn the Seiko everyday to work where I regularly bang it or sweep it accidentely against hard surfaces. Well, both the crystal and the case still look brand new. I'd say hardlex crystal is not bad at all...

Anyway, still very fond of this great looking watch. I gave it a few NATO straps too, so it looks even better now.
I must now resist the urge to buy more. I've been particularly looking at the Seiko SRP147, and the Orient CER00007B (Submariner hommage) ;-)

That's all folks.
 

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Just picked up one myself. Unfortunately, mine is not a Japanese built model as the one you have in the photos. That said, it great looking and seems very well made. I'm kicking around the idea of returning it for something else. Before I did, I was interested in knowing whether or not the band on this watch could be swapped out for the metal bracelet on the snzg13. Is this possible? If so, where could I find a bracelet for the 13?

Thanks,

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I just ordered a SNZG15K1 from amazon.com. I'm very uncertain about the size on my wrist. I don't like HUGE watches, I think they're silly. (Several Invicta's on display in Costco come to mind.) This one has very understated styling though, so the size may not be too bad. We'll see. I'm very impressed with the specs though. It's due to arrive tomorrow!
 

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I just ordered a SNZG15K1 from amazon.com. I'm very uncertain about the size on my wrist. I don't like HUGE watches, I think they're silly. (Several Invicta's on display in Costco come to mind.) This one has very understated styling though, so the size may not be too bad. We'll see. I'm very impressed with the specs though. It's due to arrive tomorrow!
Really hope you post some photo's - especially on your wrist! I have 6.76 wrists and am not a fan of huge watches either. Will be interested to see yours on.
 

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I've had my SNZG15 for about three months and really like it.

All the good things folks have said about it, already, are true for me. Mine's about five seconds fast each day ... seems really acceptable ... and the lumes are amazing. Eight hours, easy, with a flashlight charge before I go to bed.

I get compliments on it a lot, especially after I put an olive drab NATO strappy thing on it. I don't think I really like NATO straps, generally ... there's a lot going on and it makes for a bulky, complicated look, but I trimmed off about a foot of web, lace it through the return brackets differently than is typical and chopped off the second in-board bracket to clean it up. I think I'll keep it on that strap for a while longer. It looks sorta old-school tactical. The daughter of a WWII B-17 pilot once remarked that she saw her dad in a watch that looked similar. Sweet.

I think the fit, finish, accuracy and value of the watch are all high and recommend it. The strap is mediocre, but that's an easy fix and, frankly, changing bands/bracelets on watches is one of the geeky pleasures of being a watch guy, so I didn't mind tossing the stock strap in the bucket right quickly.
 

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After starting with the 809 and choosing between it and the G15 I finally decided to get... the SNZG13! The difference being the polished case finish.

It's in the mail and I can't wait! Thanks again for the review.
 

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After starting with the 809 and choosing between it and the G15 I finally decided to get... the SNZG13! The difference being the polished case finish.

It's in the mail and I can't wait! Thanks again for the review.
Congratulations! Just wondering where you ordered your SNZG13 as I am interested in one of these? Looking for a reputable source....

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have mine for a day. one thing bugging me a lot is how the date/day mechanism works.

i have a pretty late hours life style and the date mechanism start to change the day of the month around 23h and complete the change around midnight. so far perfect. but it's still showing yesterday day of the week. that one changes to the second language (Spanish on mine) for still yesterday at 1h and finally changes to the correct day of the week in English at 2h.

are all mechanical watches like that? think i would have got a cheaper no date model if i knew...

it's very confusing for idiots like me who can't keep track of the current date throwout the week and are always working really late...
 

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forgot to add... the included me manual is so crude it's not even a joke. it's borderline offensive. ... yeah I'm a nerd for manuals. this one came with a cheap one sheet that covers several models, crudely.
 

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That's how its supposed to work in that watch because of the two languages. And there's no reason to have a different manual when they all have the same movement in a different case with absolutely no modification.

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have mine for a day. one thing bugging me a lot is how the date/day mechanism works.

i have a pretty late hours life style and the date mechanism start to change the day of the month around 23h and complete the change around midnight. so far perfect. but it's still showing yesterday day of the week. that one changes to the second language (Spanish on mine) for still yesterday at 1h and finally changes to the correct day of the week in English at 2h.

are all mechanical watches like that? think i would have got a cheaper no date model if i knew...

it's very confusing for idiots like me who can't keep track of the current date throwout the week and are always working really late...
Well if you are normally up at night you could just shift the time so the date changes around noon instead of midnight that way by two in the afternoon your would be all set for the night ahead. Just a thought...

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