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Hey folks. I've been lurking for a while, just registered. I inherited two watches (1950's Longines, 1970's Caravelle, neither fancy) from my granddad that recently hooked me on vintage watches. Been keeping an eye out in strange places. Found an old Hamilton for my lady for $18, but so far nothing for me.

Today I was in a pawn shop looking at a banjo. On the way out I saw this steel Omega in the case full of fashion watches and a lot of Seikos. (I hope the photo works.) I quickly took a look. It wound up and ran. They are asking a little over $200. Tag says "16 jewel Omega", nothing else. The band was on backwards (long piece on the 12 side). The band had Omega stamped on the inner surface.

The winding sounded louder than my Longines or Caravelle. The hour hand had a blue color to it at some angles that the other hands did not, so I think it was replaced. The back had no markings, was rounded and brushed steel, and did not have those divots for unscrewing but instead had a notch on the edge like my Longines (for prying off?). Sorry I didn't get a photo.

Is this thing for real? Is it a known model? A composite? Too expensive? Should I go back and take another look? Try to buy it?

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Looks like a genuine 1940's Omega to me.

This watch will most likely have the the Omega cal 30T2SC, one of the best and
highly prized of all Omega movements.
It is impossible to appraise a watch from a single pic and no movement shot, but the
watch looks in nice condition and chances are that the movement will be good too.
Ask the vendor to open the case back so's you can assess the movement, if all looks
well, no rust etc and you see Omega stamped on a bridge then you should snap it up
as a 30T2 in this condition for this price is an absolute bargain.
The cal number 30T2SC will be found under the balance wheel.
 

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Thanks for the reply.

I gambled and bought it, movement unseen. Caseback is jammed and the young guy at the shop didn't want to force it. It has an Omega alligator strap in decent shape. It is not keeping time. The dial and hands resemble a 1941 Omega 30T2SC that I found thru google, except this watch is 37.5 mm.


I'm currently looking for someone local to work on the watch and I may have a very good lead on that.
 

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That's excellent Tinyfrogs, I would have gambled on this watch as well.
37.5mm is a bonus as this is what Omega collectors term 'oversize', they are rarer
and more desirable than the standard 33mm watches of this time.
Hopefully eveything will be well with the movement...I'm sure it will as the watch looks in nice
condition, I like it.
 

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I found my lead on a watchmaker on these forums: IWW. They are located only 30 miles away. Once I'm ready to get this watch fixed I hope I can bring it in person. I'd like to have them open the case immediately so I can see the guts myself and get some nice photos.

What do you think about me asking IWW to do a photoshoot?
 

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That would be excellent if they could take some pics of your watches innards, I'm looking
foward to some pics of the movement.
 

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Yeah, that case (in steel), crown, hands, and lugs look right.

The dial resembles CK2242 except mine doesn't say "swiss made" at the bottom and the text of Omega is unusual on mine, more slanted. A lot of the entries in that era say "This watch may have existed with different dials". There is another MI 2325 on WUS here. Mine was either overhauled at some point or stashed away because it looks a lot cleaner than the other one. I doubt the strap is original. It looks barely used. There is some broken stitching.

If only I could get the case open myself! It looks lightly scratched from previous attempts so I will leave it alone. It will be a while before I can get this into a shop.
 

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Yeah, that case (in steel), crown, hands, and lugs look right.

The dial resembles CK2242 except mine doesn't say "swiss made" at the bottom and the text of Omega is unusual on mine, more slanted. A lot of the entries in that era say "This watch may have existed with different dials". There is another MI 2325 on WUS here. Mine was either overhauled at some point or stashed away because it looks a lot cleaner than the other one. I doubt the strap is original. It looks barely used. There is some broken stitching.

If only I could get the case open myself! It looks lightly scratched from previous attempts so I will leave it alone. It will be a while before I can get this into a shop.
Come on man, hurry up, we can't wait to see it either! :p
200 USD is a bargain, even if the movement is gone. The fact that it is still running is a good sign however, it can't be all rust inside. Anyways, looking at the condition of the dial, I'd have rated that to be unlikely anyways.
 

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Your watchmaker will love working on this if it does contain the 30T2.
These are a joy to service and capable of exceptional timekeeping when in good adjustment.

Looking forward to the pics.
 

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Your watchmaker will love working on this if it does contain the 30T2.
These are a joy to service and capable of exceptional timekeeping when in good adjustment.

Looking forward to the pics.
Indeed, they are among the very best handwound Omega calibres ever made by Omega.
 

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Update from IWW: "Yes, I was able to open it. It's a genuine Omega caliber 30T2. I do believe the dial might be a older refinish."

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I'm thrilled about the movement. Don't care too much that the dial might be redone. He says it was really hard to open, so he's not surprised the caseback was scratched up a bit. He might clean that up.

Time to order a band for it!
 

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Gorgeous, look at the condition it is in!
Congratulations! I wouldn't worry too much about the dial either. I have hardly seen any Omega with T30, that did not either look like rubbish (genuine) or new (redone). Their dials must - for some reason - have been much more delicate then in other watches of the time.

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I really have to hate You now. :-d
 

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Update from IWW: "Yes, I was able to open it. It's a genuine Omega caliber 30T2. I do believe the dial might be a older refinish."
I'm thrilled about the movement. Don't care too much that the dial might be redone. He says it was really hard to open, so he's not surprised the caseback was scratched up a bit. He might clean that up.

Time to order a band for it!
Pheeeew, that's a relief.

After my initial post, and you buying this watch movement unseen, I was feeling a bit responsible.
But it's turned out good and I can see that this movement is very nice and unmolested, well done.

I was confident really....Pheeeew

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The dial on your watch could be an old refinish, it is very reminiscent of the military aviator Omegas.
I like it and it wouldn't worry me, it is contemporary styling and it looks right for this watch.
Here is my 30T2 pilots watch, look how close the dials are. I love this dial type, simple and functional.

https://www.watchuseek.com/f11/1943-omega-pilots-watch-484734.html
 

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Woof...Really nice find. If I saw that in a pawn shop here I would have broke my fingers getting the money out of my pocket...

Looking forward to a wrist shot when you get it back and the new band on it.
 

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Pretty sure the pawn shop didn't appreciate the watch. They had one gaudy Rolex for $6000 and a couple of cases of fashion brand watches, many priced higher than this Omega. I don't think it looked flashy enough to be worth anything to their customers. Or maybe because it didn't keep time?

A wrist shot will come once I have the watch and decide on a band. I will have the Omega gator band that came on the watch (which I think is too narrow for those 19mm lugs), two leather NATOs and two nylon NATOs incoming for some other watches to choose from. I know some don't like vintage watches on NATOs but for me it is a comfort issue, as the extra height makes it easier for me to keep the watch tight and low on my wrist. More comfort = more wrist time.

Watch collecting (instead of inheriting) is a new hobby for me, and as it goes with new hobbies, it has been expensive. This Omega is not the only watch I have purchased recently. None of them are wearable yet. Once the dust settles, I may need to decide what to do with this one. In the least, it would be good to know what it is worth so I can tell my insurance company that I have it.
 
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