I would like to hear more about STP's automatic movements since they have been around a while now. We still don't know if they are simply reworked SeaGull's or whether they are a new design but yet of Chinese origin pretending to be Swiss. So far, the only place I've seen these movements is in either Micro Brand watches and they are even few and far between there or fashion watches. Fashion watches make sense since their parent is Fossil. Somehow, taking Fossil upscale seems like mission impossible. Why haven't we seen these movements in any mainstream, mid-priced brands? I am anxious for your input.