I just bought a Stuhrling Cuvette automatic 16K gold watch from overstock last week for $150 (on sale). It is a very fine looking watch. The face is subtle but striking and the watch has a refined classic look. In fact, it looks much better than the original purpose I bought it for; to fill in the gap for my more moderately priced quartz watches while the batteries were being replaced. I replace the batteries all at once because its cheaper this way. I went without a watch for two months recently for this reason (lazy me). Anyway, Stuhrling watches have a Hangzhou movement as best I can tell. I have been testing mine since I got it (last Friday) and it seems too lose 6 seconds or less when the spring gets near being completely unwound. I am actually thinking about getting a much cheaper Parnis windup watch, since it is more in line with my original purpose for even considering a mechanical watch and all other watches for this purpose; show me the approximate time with as little hassle as possible and nothing else matters. Simple is good.