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Hi

After various other brands ( Heuer, Omega, Breitling ) I eventually came around to purchasing a date sub and absolutely love it. It is a superb peice of engineering and has proven that Rolexes are well worth their reputation.

The problem is that im getting those itchy feet feelings that always seem to come up after a couple of years with a watch. Ive not been on the forum for a while.

I recently looked at the new GMT master which has a bunch of improvements and feels significantly more solid. I would like to move to a two tone version and ive got two questions that Id like some feedback on

1 - Whats the general feelings about the new GMT and the changes made ? any good/bad things that have developed ?

2 - Does anyone know if/when these changes will be implemented on the sub ?

Thanks

Steve
 

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Hi,
I think the answers to your questions depend on the individual owners' taste.
All the feedback I have heard has been positive, especially the upgrade to the bracelet. The common remark is that it gives the watch an added heft and feels more solid on the wrist. Not only that, the movement has been updated as well, and all accuracy reports I have seen are +/- 1 sec/day. The maxi-dial makes it easier to read, and the ceramic bezel is eay to read as well. I have not personally heard of any issues to this point with the new GMTII.

As far as the trusty Sub, I think the precursor to any changes was the introduction of the LV. One can only speculate as to what Rolex will do until Basel next year. My hope is that we will see the GMTII in SS, as well as improvements to the bracelet and case on the Sub. I hope that the Maxi Dial will only be an option, and not standard. I am not a fan of those huge markers, they make the dial look cluttered IMHO. I think the changes should roll into the 14060M as well, that one is long overdue for an SEL bracelet, IMHO.santasmile

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I just bought the new Rolex GMT-MASTER II on 12-22-2006. I researched the Sea-Deweller and Submariner, as compared to the GMT-MASTER II, I found for my personal use the GMT was the sleakist and most practical of the three. Many complain about the clasp being to frail, but mine appears to be solid and compliments the watches weight and rigid feel. Oh, by the way mine is a SS model.
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How could someone complain about the clasp on the GMT II being too frail? It is the same oyster clasp that is on the Explorers and Subs. Only difference with the Subs, is the subs have an extension (thus it is a little longer).

GMT II is a very solid watch. Tried on a friends and it is the next watch I will buy! Just now the hard part is all black or red/black.
 

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I have a review / comparison of my SeaDweller and GMT II posted at http://members.aol.com/sheldons4. I also owned a no-date sub and I include some experience with that piece as well.

Although the SeaDweller and the Sub are different, you might get a better picture when compared to the GMT II.

Nevertheless, both are great watches.

-Sheldon
 

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How could someone complain about the clasp on the GMT II being too frail? It is the same oyster clasp that is on the Explorers and Subs. Only difference with the Subs, is the subs have an extension (thus it is a little longer).

GMT II is a very solid watch. Tried on a friends and it is the next watch I will buy! Just now the hard part is all black or red/black.

imho, all black. but if you're a die hard blue/red.
 
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