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The 2020 Watch Purchasing Abstinence Club (WPAC)

Welcome to the 2020 Watch Purchasing Abstinence Club, otherwise known as WPAC.

This is the 4th year of WPAC, which was started at the beginning of 2017 as I was in a spiral of buying, flipping and buying again. Sometimes I was looking at the next purchase before I'd even received the last one I'd ordered, it was a little crazy and not exactly healthy. As well I wasn't putting much thought into my purchases so very few became long term keepers. Part of the problem, for me, is here on WUS you're exposed to new shiny watches all the time and the constant new purchases you see create a norm of buying. Yes, I could just stop visiting WUS, but I like watches and I like a lot of the threads on here……

OK, so what is the point of WPAC? Well it's a tiny corner of F71 that is a safe place for those that are intending to abstain from buying watches over the rest of 2020. Yes we still love watches, but as we all know the exposure to shiny stuff on WUS can be overwhelming and somewhat of an enabler and for those with a weaker will (that'll include me…..) this is a place to get help. Here you can take solace from like minded f71 brethren and get support and encouragement. We can even swap and share coping strategies for getting through what will be a tough time.

WPAC has been successful to varying degrees, but it's certainly helped me focus on my buying habits and curb those, along with helping to understand what really suits me in watches. OK, so I still have weak moments but I'm only human. I know that this has helped others, so maybe it can help you.

For the WPAC regulars (including the lurkers) we all know the SOP for this, but here are the rules for 2020.....

Ground rules:

  1. Abstain from buying any watches for the whole of 2020.
  2. Pre-orders, even if delivery is in 2021, still count as a purchase.
  3. Trades are acceptable but must not result in any $$$ spent to make up the difference.
  4. New straps, parts and tools are acceptable (buying all the parts separately to make a watch is not!).
  5. Sales are okay but $$$ can not be reappointed to a new purchase.
  6. Watches given to you as a gift are acceptable but the one in one out rule applies (see rule 9).
  7. Purchasing for profit is allowed, but watches purchased to make a profit shouldn't be worn or find their way into your watchbox. If they do then it's back to the one in one out rule. And we don't want to see them!
  8. One exception allowed for the year, but on the basis of one in one out. The exception is intended to cover weakness of will and also that occasion where there is something special that you've been saving or looking for available. If you can avoid using it then great.
  9. If you fall from grace and succumb to temptation then the one in one out rule applies (applies to pre-orders as well), e.g. one of the existing watches must be sold/gifted to make room.
  10. All members to post SOTC (with photo of all watches) and state their intentions for 2020. This needs to be your first post please!
  11. Please participate in the thread!
  12. Bashing* of any potential purchases is mandatory, but let's keep it funny. Nuclear level bashing is required for any actual purchases.
* - bashing has become a divisive issue in previous threads and it needs to be made clear upfront that bashing (meaning finding faults with a potential purchase in any way possible) is perfectly acceptable behaviour here and is encouraged. If your fragile ego can't take a little bit of abuse at an inanimate object that you desire then you're either too sensitive or in the wrong place. Having said that we need to keep it within the bounds of reasonable behaviour…….

If you've got a different goal, but it's aligned with the spirit of WPAC then feel free to join in and tell us what you're intending. And let's be clear here, neither I or anyone else can stop you purchasing a watch, it's up to you. WPAC is more of a state of mind than strictly keeping to some rules. This isn't a deadly serious thread it's intended to be fun and for those who really do want to try and abstain…….

.......and if you do have a slightly different goal just expect to be treated as if you are abstaining, I'm not going to be remember every person's little permutation of the rules b-).

Good luck to everyone for 2020 |>.
 

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SOTC as of right now. From left to right:

Tag Heuer Aquaracer WAY1112: this is my current daily driver, and I've worn this every day since about May. I believe this is the only watch I intend to keep in my collection this year onwards. This piece is very near an dear to me, having been gifted to me last year. It's also an amazing beater piece despite the brand and price. I can wear this in almost any environment and feel safe and secure knowing that it can withstand any knocks while also fitting into more formal environments (yes, it's not a dress watch, but I don't typically find myself in places where you're looked down upon for not wearing a dress watch with a suit).

G-Shock GA-100MB: this is the oldest watch in my collection, despite having only had it for about 4 years. I used to wear this piece nearly everyday, but I've struggled to find times to wear it. This is a piece I'd happily part with and might choose to sell.

Timex Expedition Scout: I've had this watch for a while and it's always been a looker. The watch is also in surprisingly good shape for where I've taken it and how long I've had it. That said, I think my time with this watch is over and I'm willing to part ways with it. Due to the fact that these go for like $50, I'm not expecting really anything in terms of money and would happily take even $20 if I could get that haha. I might just give it away since that'd be easier.

Seiko 5 SNKA01K1: this here is my first automatic timepiece, and of course, it had to be a Seiko 5. I actually really like the dial of this piece, it's beautiful under direct sunlight. That said, the bracelet is no fun and I've found it hard to wear cheap quality bracelets since I got my Aquaracer.

Parnis Batman GMT: this is my first (and probably last) Chinese watch. It was nice for the first month, but then I started to encounter a lot of problems with it and have not really worn it much since. It's a shame since I actually really liked the design and the GMT feature was very handy at the time. This was also the first piece where I really tried experimenting with straps, I took it off the bracelet (with which I encountered problems from the very first day) and put it on a leather strap followed by the NATO it's currently on. For the price, I've got to admit it was a fun watch, but no more cheap Chinese homage watches for me. At least I know I could totally rock a Rolex GMT if I had one!

Casio F-91WM-9ADF: I truly believe that the F91W is a piece that everyone needs to experience once, much like how us watch aficionados consider the SKX007 and Speedmaster "staple" pieces, the F91W is an extremely budget friendly staple piece. I had the original (black case) one many years ago, but regretted losing it so much that I bought another one! Despite the low price, I think there's a lot to appreciate in terms of design and the overall functionality of the timepiece. This is an ever-dependable watch that will fit to just about anyone's wrist, whether it's a 5 year old girl or a retired 75 year old man.

My goals: This year I'm aiming to significantly downsize my collection. I'll be moving countries halfway through the year (back home) and by then would like to only have my Tag and F91W with me when I move. Plus, since I'd like my next piece to be quite a nice watch, I don't think I'll be spending serious amounts of money next year. Makes being a WPAC member easy! I guess we'll just see how it goes!
 

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OK, so my aims for 2020 are as follows:

1. Put my money where my mouth is and stick to NO new purchases for the year.
2. Reduce time spent on WUS.
3. Appreciate what I have.
4. Finally dispel from my mind the notion/desire to own a "named" luxury brand.
5. Wear each watch for no less than a week.
6. Make an effort to enjoy straps.

OK, so I did purchase another NTH sub (Barracuda Vintage Black) at the end of 2019, a late Xmas present to myself and sanctioned by the missus as a treat; this was one I'd sold when I got the Pelagos and really regretted selling it.

SOTC is this:



Oris 65 Diver 40mm
Eterna 1960 Dress Watch
Seiko SRPC41 Mini Turtle PADI
Helson Shark Diver 38mm Titanium
NTH Nacken Modern Black
NTH Barracuda Vintage Black (not yet arrived)

Having said that I might just sell the Seiko……
…….I know the whole Maria Kondo thing is slightly irritating, but someone in WPAC recently posted something similar in that if it doesn't give you joy get rid of it. Unfortunately the Seiko isn't giving me joy.


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Thanks for setting the good ship WPAC sailing again Hornet. I haven’t bought any in 2020 yet - do I get a ??
You get marks taken off Rusty. First post needs SOTC pic, see rule 10......
 

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Okay. Goals:
- Really really try to NOT buy any watches.
- Sell between 1 to 3 of the current collection.

SOTC:

(Preorder from pre-christmas): Zelos Mako v3 lume-dial, with bracelet.

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(Recent last-minute-2019-arrival) Horloscaphe Fluide:

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(Potentially on selling list) San Martin Damascus radiomir:

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(Definitely on the selling list already) Aevig Huldra v2:

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And lastly, the way-too-cheap-to-sell, lost-in-a-drawer-for-years, basic GShock 5600:

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Doublepost.

instead: Hornet, saw your goal to get into straps. I'd really advise you get at least one "top tier" strap, from Rich at Toshi Straps (toshi-straps.co.uk); they are really expensive, but miles and miles above *anything* else.
 

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First time participating in WPAC, so here goes:

SOTC:

-Ball EMII Skindiver I
-G-Shock G9300-1 Mudman
-NTH DevilRay Turquoise (no date)
-Omega Seamaster Professional GMT
-Seiko SBDC065 "Great Blue Hole"
-Seiko SBDC053 "62MAS lite"
-Tissot T-Race quartz

Goals this year:

1. No impulsive sales of watches which leads to impulsive purchases (1 in 1 out).
a. No selling to buy something only to realize I want to buy back what was originally sold.

2. Changing up my strap rotation more frequently as to keep from getting bored with my bracelets (although I do favor bracelets heavily).

3. Every time I have an impulse to buy a watch, buy a share of stock instead.

GLTA in 2020!

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Okay. Goals:
- Really really try to NOT buy any watches.
- Sell between 1 to 3 of the current collection.

SOTC:

(Preorder from pre-christmas): Zelos Mako v3 lume-dial, with bracelet.

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(Recent last-minute-2019-arrival) Horloscaphe Fluide:

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(Potentially on selling list) San Martin Damascus radiomir:

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(Definitely on the selling list already) Aevig Huldra v2:

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And lastly, the way-too-cheap-to-sell, lost-in-a-drawer-for-years, basic GShock 5600:

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Considering that you don't have a big collection are you wise selling up to three? And I'm surprised at the Aevig being on the list...
 
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First time participating in WPAC, so here goes:

SOTC:

-Ball EMII Skindiver I
-G-Shock G9300-1 Mudman
-NTH DevilRay Turquoise (no date)
-Omega Seamaster Professional GMT
-Seiko SBDC065 "Great Blue Hole"
-Seiko SBDC053 "62MAS lite"
-Tissot T-Race quartz

Goals this year:

1. No impulsive sales of watches which leads to impulsive purchases (1 in 1 out).
a. No selling to buy something only to realize I want to but back what was originally sold.

2. Changing up my strap rotation more frequently as to keep from getting bored with my bracelets (although I do favor bracelets heavily).

3. Every time I have an impulse to buy a watch, buy a share of stock instead.

GLTA in 2020!

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Welcome to WPAC! Don't forget if you need help come and post here.....
 

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Well, up to three, that's sort of the worst case scenario, where I'd sell the aevig, the gshock (because really I don't wear it nor need it), and optionally the sanmartin (for the money) or the mako/horlo (if something sticks in the eye as really bothersome). Realistically, it might as well be one (aevig only).

It's a good point though, if there are too few watches left, boredom may set in and new ones may get bought. I gotta avoid that, too.

And, yeah, I'm a bit surprised too, but in the metal it didn't quite speak to me as I'd hoped back in summer when pre-ordering. The new bezel shape on the v2 compared to v1 is one of the main reasons, to me it just doesn't look right. And it's just heavy AF, which I didn't expect.
 

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Hey, c'mon now, it's not even 2020 yet... why rush things along?

SOTC:

Occasional/sentimental:
Fossil "Bubble" homage
Casio DW5600
Longines vintage
Seiko 5 SNK809
Zim vintage Russian

Main rotation:
Seiko SNE031
Seiko SATF001
Seiko SNA139
NTH Amphion Commando
San Martin 6105 bronze
Glycine Combat 6 36mm
Momentum Atlas 38mm

Stolen, er, borrowed by Mrs-ish mconlonx:
Seiko SLT079
Seiko 5 SNXS77
Svalbard Einzeiger CG11

Incoming/preorder:
Heimdallr 6105 to mod w/ BSH dial
Assorted parts with which to fully assemble a 36mm BSH dial watch
NTH Scorpene Nomad

2020 Goals:
- Learn to mod/build watches.
- Sell a few least-loved watches.
- Limit purchases.

Of course that last one is the crux, innit? Besides what I have incoming/preorder, I have a hankering for a hand-wind, not necessarily dressy watch. Bought and sold a Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical -- too long L2L and just a touch too large. Otherwise... Nothing really dragging at me at the moment. 2020 will be a lean year for us, and that will certainly help, with less cash to throw at watches.
 

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OK, so my aims for 2020 are as follows:

1. Put my money where my mouth is and stick to NO new purchases for the year.
2. Reduce time spent on WUS.
3. Appreciate what I have.
4. Finally dispel from my mind the notion/desire to own a "named" luxury brand.
5. Wear each watch for no less than a week.
6. Make an effort to enjoy straps.

OK, so I did purchase another NTH sub (Barracuda Vintage Black) at the end of 2019, a late Xmas present to myself and sanctioned by the missus as a treat; this was one I'd sold when I got the Pelagos and really regretted selling it.

SOTC is this:



Oris 65 Diver 40mm
Eterna 1960 Dress Watch
Seiko SRPC41 Mini Turtle PADI
Helson Shark Diver 38mm Titanium
NTH Nacken Modern Black
NTH Barracuda Vintage Black (not yet arrived)

Having said that I might just sell the Seiko……
…….I know the whole Maria Kondo thing is slightly irritating, but someone in WPAC recently posted something similar in that if it doesn't give you joy get rid of it. Unfortunately the Seiko isn't giving me joy.


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Very nice collection. Taste preferences similar to mine.

I think once the BVB comes in, the turtle will get even less wrist time than it even currently gets. It feels completely different than the other 4 in size and quality. The only reason id keep it around is if you want a "beater" watch you can wear.

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OK, SOTC it is

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Bottom row L 2 R

Seiko SBDC029 Zimbe Shogun, Seiko SBDD003 Marinemaster 200, Seiko SBDX009 Landmaster L.E, Citizen AQ1030-57H, Seiko SBCW007 Scubamaster Pippin L.E

Top row L 2 R

Citizen 62-6198, Seiko SBCZ005 Grey Ghost, Citizen SPY56-9822 Professional, Seiko SBCN003 Landmaster Summiter

The order is not random, bottom row has the 'keepers' for the foreseeable future. In the top row, the vintage diver from 1972 is a work in progress, its operational but barely so. The Summiter is listed for sale. The SPY56 has been sold before and it will be sold again sometime soon, but not too soon as was the case regrettably last time around. And the Grey Ghost...well...let's just say its my fourth.

I've been a member since the start and its helped A LOT control the urge and stabilize (somewhat). Compared to my last year's SOTC the keepers are the same, except for the SBDX009 replacing its brother 007. And I've come down from 25 (?) watches to just 9 (practically 7).

Goals for 2020

1. Stay sober
2. Sell a bunch of watch related stuff and non-functioning watches that I've got lying around.
3. Service what needs to be serviced.
4. Buy a watch of significant value (>500$) only if the top row is gone. Alternatively, purge the top row in case I do purchase something of significant value.

Best case scenario: fix the 62-6198, sell the Summiter, service the 009 and the Pippin, get rid of the junk.

Coveted watch right now: none.

I could be in trouble if
a. Citizen releases a Chronomaster diver or
b. find a SBDB003 in full boxset that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

Both extremely remote possibilities, however, in each previous WPAC there was a very strange tendency for me to find the grail the moment I'd say I was done and content with what I had.

So I'll just say I'm done and content with what I have.

See you all next year!
 

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We'll see how long this lasts, but I fully intend to stick with the four that I have in rotation for a full year without acquiring or disposing of any. They are all solid and each fills a niche in their own way.

The watch world is interesting in that you can pretty much buy whatever you want to try out, and then flip for equal or more money than you spent. I've been fortunate enough to be able to try out the watches that interest me over the last few years and narrow the field down to what I have now:

1. EDC: CWC RN Quartz Diver Day/Date. This thing is rock solid. Accurate to within .5sec/mo. Thin, bright lume, legible w/o my glasses, fixed lugs, military provenance.

2. Work: Casio G-Shock GWM5610. What I wear when I'm hammering, painting, tile work, etc. Bought my first G-Shock in basic training in the 80's, and this looks just like it.

3. Auto: Citizen NY0040. It's solid, not too big, accurate at +7sec/day, day/date, military provenance, nice enough to wear to fancy things on the bracelet.

4. Outdoors: Casio PAW2000. Altimeter, Barometer, Compass, Sunrise/set, Atomic, Solar. Takes NATO's w/o adapters. It's what I wear camping, fishing, hunting. Had this one over 10yrs.

I have a few other watches, but they are heirlooms or from my childhood and not in rotation. I'll pass them on to my kids someday. I also have a crappy Casio analog in the console of the truck in case I have a watch go down, or I need to wear something that doesn't look expensive. I volunteer at a food bank on occasion and make sure I don't wear a nice watch around the less fortunate. Incidentally, none of the watches I own cost me more than $200 except for the Citizen, which I got from Italy and the shipping put it just a little over. I buy used whenever possible, and have gotten some great deals. I easily have over $200 in straps though, but we won't go there.




 

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Well, up to three, that's sort of the worst case scenario, where I'd sell the aevig, the gshock (because really I don't wear it nor need it), and optionally the sanmartin (for the money) or the mako/horlo (if something sticks in the eye as really bothersome). Realistically, it might as well be one (aevig only).

It's a good point though, if there are too few watches left, boredom may set in and new ones may get bought. I gotta avoid that, too.

And, yeah, I'm a bit surprised too, but in the metal it didn't quite speak to me as I'd hoped back in summer when pre-ordering. The new bezel shape on the v2 compared to v1 is one of the main reasons, to me it just doesn't look right. And it's just heavy AF, which I didn't expect.
Not surprised the Aevig is heavy, looks like the sort of heft a Seiko Turtle has on a strapcode bracelet and that's a hefty mutha.
 

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Hey, c'mon now, it's not even 2020 yet... why rush things along?

SOTC:

Occasional/sentimental:
Fossil "Bubble" homage
Casio DW5600
Longines vintage
Seiko 5 SNK809
Zim vintage Russian

Main rotation:
Seiko SNE031
Seiko SATF001
Seiko SNA139
NTH Amphion Commando
San Martin 6105 bronze
Glycine Combat 6 36mm
Momentum Atlas 38mm

Stolen, er, borrowed by Mrs-ish mconlonx:
Seiko SLT079
Seiko 5 SNXS77
Svalbard Einzeiger CG11

Incoming/preorder:
Heimdallr 6105 to mod w/ BSH dial
Assorted parts with which to fully assemble a 36mm BSH dial watch
NTH Scorpene Nomad

2020 Goals:
- Learn to mod/build watches.
- Sell a few least-loved watches.
- Limit purchases.

Of course that last one is the crux, innit? Besides what I have incoming/preorder, I have a hankering for a hand-wind, not necessarily dressy watch. Bought and sold a Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical -- too long L2L and just a touch too large. Otherwise... Nothing really dragging at me at the moment. 2020 will be a lean year for us, and that will certainly help, with less cash to throw at watches.
Go for total abstinence fella, slowly reduce the numbers (if you want to) and build up to an exception watch at the end of the year?
 
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Very nice collection. Taste preferences similar to mine.

I think once the BVB comes in, the turtle will get even less wrist time than it even currently gets. It feels completely different than the other 4 in size and quality. The only reason id keep it around is if you want a "beater" watch you can wear.

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I'd thought that about your collection when you'd posted the 4 watches on straps...... |>
 
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Got no chance of making the grade in 2020 but just wanted to wish all the WPAC regulars best wishes for the coming year.
I'm in the same boat. This year I really do want to curb my purchasing but I have a couple $1.5k-$3k watches on my list. I may end up grabbing one towards the end of the year. An Explorer II would be fantastic but that's going to be a stretch for 2020. My main goal is to grow the watch fund and only get a piece on my true want list. No more impulse buys.

I'll lurk from time to time for the strength to accomplish this. I wish you all happy abstaining.
 
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