[Zzyzx]

In the dark corners of bauble consumerism, the overlap between AI-generated copypasta and mental illness is thinner than the Richard Mille Ferrari watch thing:

 

[jmariorebelo]

In the dark corners of bauble consumerism, the overlap between AI-generated copypasta and mental illness is thinner than the Richard Mille Ferrari watch thing:
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Came here to mention this absolute shtshow. I'd even read the article, but rather maintain my sanity and save them the extra clicks and views.

At least the reaction from the masses has been one of overwhelming outrage...

 

[Weetabix]

From the school of "there is no bad publicity"?

 

[Mr. James Duffy]

Could I get a bash please for the new Nomos Club Sport?

I looked previously at the 42mm version, but it was too large with the long Nomos lugs, and only available with a date. The design, however, is great, clean, modern, very legible

This one is 37mm, lug to lug 47.7mm. That's a smaller dial than I'd normally consider, but with the design I know it will "wear larger", and the lug to lug is fine. It also ticks all the major boxes I've been looking for (40th birthday present to myself, intend to keep this one a long time, so need to be sure before I buy it):

• casual / sport watch
• no date
• blue dial
• bracelet option
• "good" brand
• 100m+ WR

Plus bonuses:

• thinner than most at 8.3 mm
• in-house movement
• "reasonable" price (I mean, it's $3,150 which is not trivial, but that's cheaper than e.g. the Omega Railmaster I'd looked at previously, at around $5k list)
• "Dresses up" well if needed, again compared to something like the railmaster
• German brand when I don't currently own one, nice to have a bit of variety

Plus my wife likes this one!

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Possible cons:

• Painted rather than applied indices. Not super bothered, but I'm know it'll be mentioned as a point to note
• 18mm lugs, where I have a bunch of 20mm straps... but I'd wear this on the bracelet most of the time, so I only need to pick up a couple of rubber 18mm straps for variety. I do think 18mm fits the proportions well, so can't blame Nomos on this one

.. that's all I can see, so help me, what else? You guys really are the best at spotting possible flaws in a watch / stuff that would annoy me if I bought it and noticed 3 months later

There are a lot of plusses with this one but the lug-to-lug made even longer with the male end link/first link is a big tick in the minus column. There is an additional 1mm beyond the lug due to those links making this a 37mm diameter case with a relatively ridiculous 49.5mm effective lug-to-lug measurement.

Also knowing NOMOS, the lug holes are fairly close to the lugs ends, creating a gap where the wearer's wrist will be visible when put onto a leather strap. Even on a NATO strap, one is going to get a lot of protrusion beyond the width of one's wrist, accentuating the dreaded NATO strap man bun.

 

[Hornet99]

In the dark corners of bauble consumerism, the overlap between AI-generated copypasta and mental illness is thinner than the Richard Mille Ferrari watch thing:
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Don't ya just want to slap his face?

 

[Wimads]

In the dark corners of bauble consumerism, the overlap between AI-generated copypasta and mental illness is thinner than the Richard Mille Ferrari watch thing:
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are they parodying themselves now?! 🤯

I think we need to scratch nodinkee... can't beat the real thing*.😶

*I actually went on to hodinkee to check if this was real, and zzyzx wasn't just pulling our legs with a photoshop... turns out I gave zzyzx too much credit 😪

 

[Aquavette]

In the dark corners of bauble consumerism, the overlap between AI-generated copypasta and mental illness is thinner than the Richard Mille Ferrari watch thing:
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He just exponentially increased the odds of her filing for divorce, taking half of his sh*t, and selling that f'ing watch.

 

[atvar]

I feel like you're making a lot of justifications here and (I maybe wrong....) but it feels like it did for me when I would become obsessed with a watch; I'd make all sorts of arguments for discounting what would turn out to be genuine issues with a watch.

When spending that much money you really need to try it on. Take the heart out of the equation and let the head rule here a bit....

.....also what's getting chopped to make room?

Not really, there are times when I've felt like I really liked a watch, and the points raised here have changed my mind. (That purple minase that came up a few months back, the Omega Planet Ocean, and I think one more.) So I think I'm not immune to listening to reason

This time I feel like the strongest points raised here boil down to the lugs, and the price, two very good points. So if I try it and I'm comfortable with the price, and the lugs fit... then really the rest is more details to consider than stuff that would definitely rule it out.....

And definitely something goes, already earmarked the watch this purchase will replace:

(Nothing really wrong with it, just a "tick the boxes" diver. A forum favourite that turned out to do nothing for me, I tried swapping from a bracelet onto rubber for a change, but still hardly wear it. )

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Does the bracelet have 'on the fly' adjustment?

There is also some noise about Nomos movements not being the toughest... But as with any comments about reliability, it's very difficult to sort anecdotal comments from actual data / experience. Just something to maybe research a bit for yourself before taking the plunge.

No on the fly adjustment (I think not, anyway). But I already have 3 watches on bracelets without that, and haven't had an issue, my wrist size doesn't change too much in summer, which is when I wear bracelets. I'll look at the movement feedback, but the trouble is, as you say, it's hard to pick out significant data from anecdotes... give me 5 mins to research any brand and I bet I could find a bunch of complaints. I will take a look though, and see if I can see any patterns!.

I love how thin this is, and it's quite good looking. 100m wr is a big bonus too. The trouble points would be as follows:

1. The Club looks almost exactly like this and can be had used for under a grand, so quite a lot less all around. The only difference seems to be the dial color and bracelet, so I'd want to make awfully sure that bracelet is going to blow my mind.
2. Super long lugs for the case size, and decently long for just about any size tbh. Check out a side profile view of this watch. If those lugs don't sweep down very significantly the wearing experience is going to be ungainly and awkward. Like wearing a small platform on the wrist.
3. Not a fan of that oddly long crown. Bad aesthetic choice.

Those are the bashes I have. Of course like with any watch purchase, especially one roughly equivalent to a used car, be cautious and take your time.

I looked at other clubs before, but some of them are even longer lug to lug - some of the neomatiks are 48.5 or 49.5 - if you lot think this one is long, you're not going to give good feedback on those! Also the bracelet is quite important to me. But probably any Nomos shop is going to have a few other Club models in stock so I'll see what else I can try on and compre.

You've got me studying the pictures trying to work out if the crown is unusually long.... I'll reserve judgement on this one until I can see it in person. I will say though, I'm not a fan of very small crowns on more sporty watches (the Omega speedmaster, for instance, always seems to have too small a crown to me).

There are a lot of plusses with this one but the lug-to-lug made even longer with the male end link/first link is a big tick in the minus column. There is an additional 1mm beyond the lug due to those links making this a 37mm diameter case with a relatively ridiculous 49.5mm effective lug-to-lug measurement.
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Also knowing NOMOS, the lug holes are fairly close to the lugs ends, creating a gap where the wearer's wrist will be visible when put onto a leather strap. Even on a NATO strap, one is going to get a lot of protrusion beyond the width of one's wrist, accentuating the dreaded NATO strap man bun.

Yeah, I do want to see another club on a strap and see just how big the gap is...

Below is my wrist with a 43.5mm Planet Ocean. The lug to lug is variously quoted as 49 or 52, but either way longer than this Nomos. Big, but not outsized, the bracelet curved to my wrist with no protrusion. That side on picture above looks like it will similarly curve to my wrist, not like the Nomos Ahoi where the lugs protrude almost straight.

Trust me, I'm not in denial about Nomos lugs, I'm pretty confident they will physically fit on my wrist, it's just the look to double check in person...

 

[atvar]

Came here to mention this absolute shtshow. I'd even read the article, but rather maintain my sanity and save them the extra clicks and views.

At least the reaction from the masses has been one of overwhelming outrage...

I thought this had to be a joke at first.....

I did go and read the article, because in my mind there's a difference between "contractions starting" where you've likely got hours and you can take your time (my wife told me to go back to sleep for a few hours so we didn't need to show up at hospital in the early hours of the morning), and "waters breaking" when I'd really want my wife to be at the hospital ASAP. This is the point at which her waters break when he decides to pop back.

Dick move, unquestionably.

 

[Mr. James Duffy]

Yeah, I do want to see another club on a strap and see just how big the gap is...

I think the original flat link sport bracelet on the watch head shows the gap.

It will probably look okay with a thick enough strap. I had a similar gap issue with my Kurono Tokyo but solved it with a sufficiently thick leather strap from Stonewall (https://stonewall.jp/).

 

[Wimads]

Not really, there are times when I've felt like I really liked a watch, and the points raised here have changed my mind. (That purple minase that came up a few months back, the Omega Planet Ocean, and I think one more.) So I think I'm not immune to listening to reason

This time I feel like the strongest points raised here boil down to the lugs, and the price, two very good points. So if I try it and I'm comfortable with the price, and the lugs fit... then really the rest is more details to consider than stuff that would definitely rule it out.....

And definitely something goes, already earmarked the watch this purchase will replace:

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(Nothing really wrong with it, just a "tick the boxes" diver. A forum favourite that turned out to do nothing for me, I tried swapping from a bracelet onto rubber for a change, but still hardly wear it. )




No on the fly adjustment (I think not, anyway). But I already have 3 watches on bracelets without that, and haven't had an issue, my wrist size doesn't change too much in summer, which is when I wear bracelets. I'll look at the movement feedback, but the trouble is, as you say, it's hard to pick out significant data from anecdotes... give me 5 mins to research any brand and I bet I could find a bunch of complaints. I will take a look though, and see if I can see any patterns!.



I looked at other clubs before, but some of them are even longer lug to lug - some of the neomatiks are 48.5 or 49.5 - if you lot think this one is long, you're not going to give good feedback on those! Also the bracelet is quite important to me. But probably any Nomos shop is going to have a few other Club models in stock so I'll see what else I can try on and compre.

You've got me studying the pictures trying to work out if the crown is unusually long.... I'll reserve judgement on this one until I can see it in person. I will say though, I'm not a fan of very small crowns on more sporty watches (the Omega speedmaster, for instance, always seems to have too small a crown to me).



Yeah, I do want to see another club on a strap and see just how big the gap is...

Below is my wrist with a 43.5mm Planet Ocean. The lug to lug is variously quoted as 49 or 52, but either way longer than this Nomos. Big, but not outsized, the bracelet curved to my wrist with no protrusion. That side on picture above looks like it will similarly curve to my wrist, not like the Nomos Ahoi where the lugs protrude almost straight.

Trust me, I'm not in denial about Nomos lugs, I'm pretty confident they will physically fit on my wrist, it's just the look to double check in person...
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It's not about the absolute lug to lug measure. It is about the proportions relative to the case. On a 42mm watch that l2l would be perfectly acceptable, but this is a 37mm watch, compared to which this is still a funny looking abnormally long lug length. It will definitely also give a gap when on a strap. James' suggestion of a thick strap may solve that gap, but that won't look right on a watch this thin either.

 

[Zzyzx]

There are a lot of plusses with this one but the lug-to-lug made even longer with the male end link/first link is a big tick in the minus column. There is an additional 1mm beyond the lug due to those links making this a 37mm diameter case with a relatively ridiculous 49.5mm effective lug-to-lug measurement.
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Also knowing NOMOS, the lug holes are fairly close to the lugs ends, creating a gap where the wearer's wrist will be visible when put onto a leather strap. Even on a NATO strap, one is going to get a lot of protrusion beyond the width of one's wrist, accentuating the dreaded NATO strap man bun.

Yeah, look at those bits poking out the bottom of the lugs. That's the quick-change bit poking out. Not as far out on the lugs as it could possibly be made, but still far enough out...

 

[sticky]

In the dark corners of bauble consumerism, the overlap between AI-generated copypasta and mental illness is thinner than the Richard Mille Ferrari watch thing:
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Hang on,let me get this right. Did this guy really go back for his watch instead of taking his wife to the hospital?
Sheesh, I love my watches like the old fool that I am but they always play second fiddle to my family.

 

[Miklos86]

I thought this had to be a joke at first.....

I did go and read the article, because in my mind there's a difference between "contractions starting" where you've likely got hours and you can take your time (my wife told me to go back to sleep for a few hours so we didn't need to show up at hospital in the early hours of the morning), and "waters breaking" when I'd really want my wife to be at the hospital ASAP. This is the point at which her waters break when he decides to pop back.

Dick move, unquestionably.

I don't think it's true. They just made that story up, to stir some discussion, links and clicks. That's the good faith assumption.

If it is true, he is that kind of a d*ck, he should start preparing for the divorce. He can write sob stories how he is "forced" to let go of some more expensive watches and "settle" for lower tier watch brands...

 

[Hornet99]

It's not about the absolute lug to lug measure. It is about the proportions relative to the case. On a 42mm watch that l2l would be perfectly acceptable, but this is a 37mm watch, compared to which this is still a funny looking abnormally long lug length. It will definitely also give a gap when on a strap. James' suggestion of a thick strap may solve that gap, but that won't look right on a watch this thin either.

Yes, but the absolute lug to lug measurements do become problematic if you've not got huge wrists......

.....even if you have curved lugs it still can end up looking like you're a kid again wearing your dad's watch.

But nearly 50mm on a 37mm diameter watch is ridiculous. Goes against the whole idea of a reasonably sized watch.

 

[Wimads]

I don't think it's true. They just made that story up, to stir some discussion, links and clicks. That's the good faith assumption.

If it is true, he is that kind of a d*ck, he should start preparing for the divorce. He can write sob stories how he is "forced" to let go of some more expensive watches and "settle" for lower tier watch brands...

I hope you're right.... it'd have been a pretty good nodinkee story - right on the edge of believability and ludicracy (is that a word?)

 

[X2-Elijah]

It's probably a fake story, but designed to showcase Hodinkee's "ideal reader", or what Hodinkee's editors think we should all aspire to be like.

...
Which is a good reason to stop reading that trash rag.

 

[Wimads]

It's probably a fake story, but designed to showcase Hodinkee's "ideal reader", or what Hodinkee's editors think we should all aspire to be like.

...
Which is a good reason to stop reading that trash rag.

I guess it makes sense when you put it like that. A marketing ploy trying to elevate the importance of a watch to something beyond a shiny trinket.

It's like the old conspiracy story telling trick. Tell a story, starting with the conspiracy you want to spread. Then keep adding on more and more ludicrous and outrageous claims to it until it becomes like a Hollywood plot, compared to which the original conspiracy claim suddenly seems actually believable. People will dismiss the story as bullcrap, but the original more subtle message of the story might just stick in the mind. Mission accomplished.

 

[Mr. James Duffy]

Yeah, look at those bits poking out the bottom of the lugs. That's the quick-change bit poking out. Not as far out on the lugs as it could possibly be made, but still far enough out...

Also, the pin holding the end link to the first link is visible beyond the lugs and I think those are the first pivot points. I assume the advertised lug-to-lug is from tips of the lugs so it looks like the effective measurement is even longer. As @Wimads and @Hornet99 have said, the L2L relative to the case diameter is the real issue with the dimensions. It is still a pretty watch but it is also a little confounding.

 

[cortman]

It's been interesting to watch Hodinkee's fall in real time. I really don't think they'll be considered even in the top three media outlets (by enthusiasts) within a year or two. They've lost literally every single one of their original team of good writers (except James Stacey) and their articles are becoming so bland and advertising-forward.