Out of interest why are there so many college football games played on new years eve. Does new years eve mean very little in the US? I mean the CFP semi finals will be still be going coming up to near midnight, won't they? 
The 2023 Watch Purchasing Abstinence Club (WPAC).
Welcome to the 2023 Watch Purchasing Abstinence Club, otherwise known as WPAC. This is the 7th year of WPAC, which gives me pause to stop and think that I'm surprised it has lasted this long. We might just be onto a good thing?
I'm not intending to repeat the usual opening remarks, but if you're coming to this thread wondering what this is all about have a gander at the last couple of years WPAC threads:
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.....obviously don't read them all, but the original, opening posts should give you a good idea. In short this is a thread for a like minded group of watch obsessed individuals who are generally trying to improve their watch buying habits. Anyone is welcome to join, but if you join we want participation and contribution!
In previous years we've had some rules, but this year there aren't going to be, there seems little point when we all have subtly (sometimes massively) different goals. If you are in serious horological trouble with buying then look back at the OP in previous WPAC threads, the rules should be a useful starting point if you want to get things under control or just shout out here to get some advice, it's what we're good at. Think of it like a clubhouse or a WUS subforum dedicated to being friendly, chatting about everything and anything and where you can find like minded watch fans.
Having said that, there is one rule I'd like everyone to adhere to; first post should be an intro with a SOTC picture (include everything, don't cheat) and some goals/aims for 2023. Whether you want to abstain completely, want to save for a special watch, just need to take control, slow things down or whatever, we'll be happy to have everyone. Just as long as you're clear on what your aims are.
Please participate in the thread, it's what makes it what it is. Any reasonable topic of conversation is acceptable and in fact welcomed.
Bashing of any potential purchases should still be a mandatory element, but let's keep it funny. Nuclear level bashing is required for any actual purchases.
Expect to be challenged by others if you're suggesting a purchase, whatever your personal goals/aims and expect to need to defend yourself.....
.....and with that I declare WPAC 2023 open for business. Yes, it's a little premature but I reckon I'll be quite busy after Xmas and between NY, so a little forward planning is required.
I'm not intending to repeat the usual opening remarks, but if you're coming to this thread wondering what this is all about have a gander at the last couple of years WPAC threads:
The 2022 Watch Purchasing Abstinence Club (WPAC).
The 2022 Watch Purchasing Abstinence Club (WPAC). Welcome to the 2022 Watch Purchasing Abstinence Club, otherwise known as WPAC. This is the 6th year of WPAC, which was started at the beginning of 2017 to try and get myself and some other addicts out of a crazy buying/flipping cycle with...
www.watchuseek.com
The 2021 Watch Purchasing Abstinence Club (WPAC).
The 2021 Watch Purchasing Abstinence Club (WPAC). Welcome to the 2021 Watch Purchasing Abstinence Club, otherwise known as WPAC. This is the 5th year of WPAC, which was started at the beginning of 2017 to try and get myself and some other addicts out of a crazy buying/flipping cycle with...
www.watchuseek.com
The 2020 Watch Purchasing Abstinence Club (WPAC).
The 2020 Watch Purchasing Abstinence Club (WPAC) Welcome to the 2020 Watch Purchasing Abstinence Club, otherwise known as WPAC. This is the 4th year of WPAC, which was started at the beginning of 2017 as I was in a spiral of buying, flipping and buying again. Sometimes I was looking at the...
www.watchuseek.com
.....obviously don't read them all, but the original, opening posts should give you a good idea. In short this is a thread for a like minded group of watch obsessed individuals who are generally trying to improve their watch buying habits. Anyone is welcome to join, but if you join we want participation and contribution!
In previous years we've had some rules, but this year there aren't going to be, there seems little point when we all have subtly (sometimes massively) different goals. If you are in serious horological trouble with buying then look back at the OP in previous WPAC threads, the rules should be a useful starting point if you want to get things under control or just shout out here to get some advice, it's what we're good at. Think of it like a clubhouse or a WUS subforum dedicated to being friendly, chatting about everything and anything and where you can find like minded watch fans.
Having said that, there is one rule I'd like everyone to adhere to; first post should be an intro with a SOTC picture (include everything, don't cheat) and some goals/aims for 2023. Whether you want to abstain completely, want to save for a special watch, just need to take control, slow things down or whatever, we'll be happy to have everyone. Just as long as you're clear on what your aims are.
Please participate in the thread, it's what makes it what it is. Any reasonable topic of conversation is acceptable and in fact welcomed.
Bashing of any potential purchases should still be a mandatory element, but let's keep it funny. Nuclear level bashing is required for any actual purchases.
Expect to be challenged by others if you're suggesting a purchase, whatever your personal goals/aims and expect to need to defend yourself.....
.....and with that I declare WPAC 2023 open for business. Yes, it's a little premature but I reckon I'll be quite busy after Xmas and between NY, so a little forward planning is required.
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As promised I’m back — this time with a crappy SOTC shot. It’s missing one of my submersibles which will be listed for sale shortly. I plan to buy zero watches in 2023. Pretty serious about that commitment as I’m happy with what I have. But to be safe I’ll say that I will buy one watch if a unique deal presents itself as a one in one out with the aforementioned submersible.
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Football discussion violation! 15 yards and loss of down.Out of interest why are there so many college football games played on new years eve. Does new years eve mean very little in the US? I mean the CFP semi finals will be still be going coming up to near midnight, won't they?
Short answer: remnants of the old Bowl system, which was in place before the championship playoff system was finally put in place just in the past ten years. In the Bowl system two teams are rewarded for having a good season by playing another game between Christmas and New Years just for the fun of it. It's mostly a money-maker for the TV networks that carry the games, which are ultimately meaningless. It's a way for supporters of the teams to travel during the holidays, usually to warmer climates (Florida, California, Texas, Arizona, and Hawaii are very popular bowl game locations), and have a big, drunken party.
Back before playoffs, the important bowl games (Sugar, Rose, Fiesta, Orange) often pitted games amongst team that were highly ranked, such as number 1 vs, number 4 or something like that. After all the bowl games were completed, the sportswriters enlisted by the Associated Press would vote on who they thought would be crowned as the college football champion. It was a pretty dumb system and it took a lot of convincing to get a playoff system formulated and agreed to given how powerful the old bowl contracts were. As usual with sports, it's all about the money.
Money corrupts everything and US college sports are heading towards complete corruption. The recent NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) rulings will lead to enormous scandals with athletes getting screwed even more than they have in the past.
I suspect it is because a large part of their demographic are home from school or work during Taintmas (the time between X-mas and the new year) and concentrating it to one day creates a significant enough of a spike in television viewership to command a premium for television ad rates with both national and local television channels.Out of interest why are there so many college football games played on new years eve. Does new years eve mean very little in the US? I mean the CFP semi finals will be still be going coming up to near midnight, won't they?
Happy New year everyone! Hope you all had good celebrations.
Decided to quit the booze this year; not that I had an alcohol problem, but lately I just started feeling like losing the next day over a night fun just isn't worth it anymore like it used to be.
Haven't felt this fresh on a 1st Jan since childhood! A good start is half the work as they say, so here is to a good 2023
drug watch dealers will unquestionably try to tempt you with unique deals on every conceivable occasion... If your requirement for an exception is a "unique deal” you will end up with so many exceptions they'd become the rule....
Decided to quit the booze this year; not that I had an alcohol problem, but lately I just started feeling like losing the next day over a night fun just isn't worth it anymore like it used to be.
Haven't felt this fresh on a 1st Jan since childhood!
A good start is half the work as they say, so here is to a good 2023 Finances are definitely what prompted me to join wpac. Looking at the amount of cash that went into it really was the red flag for me that something wasn't right. I haven't regretted selling anything though. I only ever sold watches because they didn't get the wrist time they deserved.
I must admit it looks nice, particularly for an ali x watch. I hope you will keep enjoying it though, even when the novelty will inevitably wear off.
Welcome! That is a dangerous backdoor in your plan there though... TheAs promised I’m back — this time with a crappy SOTC shot. It’s missing one of my submersibles which will be listed for sale shortly. I plan to buy zero watches in 2023. Pretty serious about that commitment as I’m happy with what I have. But to be safe I’ll say that I will buy one watch if a unique deal presents itself as a one in one out with the aforementioned submersible.
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Happy New Year WPAC. Thought I would stop in and see how things are going, doesn’t look like much has changed.
Not much new here, no watch purchases since January/February 2022 and no real plans to buy anything. I still follow a watch deals site and have a few WR searches saved but there isn’t really anything that interests me enough to buy.
I do like the new Pelagos 39 and think the Zenith Chronomaster Sport is a great watch but, meh, it all seems silly anymore. I will just stick with the 2 I have, a dress watch and a work watch.
Stay safe brothers.
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Not much new here, no watch purchases since January/February 2022 and no real plans to buy anything. I still follow a watch deals site and have a few WR searches saved but there isn’t really anything that interests me enough to buy.
I do like the new Pelagos 39 and think the Zenith Chronomaster Sport is a great watch but, meh, it all seems silly anymore. I will just stick with the 2 I have, a dress watch and a work watch
.Stay safe brothers.
@Wimads
Yes, I won't keep the Moonphase on a winder, and I doubt I will wear it for a whole month again. It's a pleasurable experience and one you can't hurry though, as it advances in such imperceptible steps. It's rather like watching an hour glass discharge its grains of sand. You would need patience to do that.
The 6th of Jan is full moon, and the visible moon is approaching that now, but the way the moon is displayed doesn't display the gibbous phases correctly. No matter, it's enjoyable.
I vaguely thought a Moonphase would show a partial moon progressing across the sky each night, rather than the way it does actually work to be honest.
Yes, I won't keep the Moonphase on a winder, and I doubt I will wear it for a whole month again. It's a pleasurable experience and one you can't hurry though, as it advances in such imperceptible steps. It's rather like watching an hour glass discharge its grains of sand. You would need patience to do that.
The 6th of Jan is full moon, and the visible moon is approaching that now, but the way the moon is displayed doesn't display the gibbous phases correctly. No matter, it's enjoyable.
I vaguely thought a Moonphase would show a partial moon progressing across the sky each night, rather than the way it does actually work to be honest.
I am not sure about the am/pm indicator.
A moonphase is a moonphase, surely.
I read that the simplest moonphases use a 59 tooth ring, linked to the date change, I think, so it's apparently not particularly hard to make. The moon's true monthly cycle is 29 days 12 hours 44 minutes though, so a 59 tooth mechanism is 44 minutes off for each cycle, and after about 33 months, it's therefore a day fast, which is a shame for me, as the only button on the watch advances the moon a day, rather than retards it a day. Once every 2 years or so, I can manage though.
Even then, you would only really notice it was a day off at New or Full moon, because at those times you should either see no moon, or the entire moon.A more accurate mechanism uses a 135 tooth ring, and more gearing and that's precise to 122 years (but you still have to keep the watch running!). Andreas Strehler made the worlds most accurate moonwatch, accurate to 2million years. It's 125,000 swiss francs. This pretty thing. I think with his watches, if you have to ask, you cant afford them
Lune Exacte - Andreas Strehler - Independent Swiss Watchmaker (astrehler.ch)
I have never officially joined WPAC because I am too lazy to photograph or document every watch in my collection. I have too many watches are out on loan to friends and family, a very large need-to-sell pile, another smaller service-or-sell pile, and several that are NOS neo-vintage watches that can be considered so-called "safe-queens" or "museum pieces." In a failed attempt to finally document my entire collection, I photographed these two NOS watches in my collection—a JDM Seiko SNX427 and a Casio MGC-10—that I plan to keep but not wear (yet?).
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Sorry @Hornet99 and dedicated WPAC 2023 members as I am not likely to ever get out of the self-imposed provisional status for too many reasons, but I support everyone here and I continue to carry the WPAC banner. This raises a nuanced existential question, where do such watches fit into WPAC if the club is founded on purchasing abstinence but not necessarily collection size and wearing habits? Is this something for the individual watch enthusiast to decide for themselves?
Happy new year. Stay strong and stay vigilant. Look at how every new watch would fit into your collection and hobby, if at all, before making your next purchase. Most important, think about the role of watches in your life with constant scrutiny and refinement.
Sorry @Hornet99 and dedicated WPAC 2023 members as I am not likely to ever get out of the self-imposed provisional status for too many reasons, but I support everyone here and I continue to carry the WPAC banner. This raises a nuanced existential question, where do such watches fit into WPAC if the club is founded on purchasing abstinence but not necessarily collection size and wearing habits? Is this something for the individual watch enthusiast to decide for themselves?
Happy new year. Stay strong and stay vigilant. Look at how every new watch would fit into your collection and hobby, if at all, before making your next purchase. Most important, think about the role of watches in your life with constant scrutiny and refinement.
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