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Welcome to BSHT Part 17 ladies and gents!

Welcome to the new guys, old time lurkers, and to the rest of the usual gang of leather lovers and protesters, and short, T-rex, stumpy hands critics. It's really great seeing all of us coexist in this part of the internet world, and we all know what brings all of us here... that is our common love for bacon and TWSS. And of course the brotherhood and camaraderie which most of the regulars here will agree. Oh and the subs, keep em coming guys.

A lot of good things are bound to happen here:

- Looking forward to seeing the new NTH Subs!
- More pics of Founder Emeritus Fullers' ProHunter Kingston, Thach's original Dark Kingston (if he hasn't flipped it yet?), as well the rest of the subs that has gone to the dark side.
- Fresh mods using BSHT dials (C'mon dial factory and ship already...).
- SALAD group coming to rise.
- More clowncloud and reverse clownclouds.

As always let's continue to keep our cozy little corner clean...okay dirty...but just a little bit.

Here are the links to the previous threads:

Best Submariner Homage?

Best Submariner Homage (Part 2)

Best Submariner Homage (Part 3)

Best Submariner Homage (part 4)

Best Submariner Homage (part 5)

Best Submariner Homage (Part 6)

The Brotherhood of Submariner Homages (a/k/a BSHT) (Part 7)

The Brotherhood of Submariner Homages (a/k/a BSHT) (Part 8)

The Brotherhood of Submariner Homages (a/k/a BSHT) (Part 9)

The Brotherhood of Submariner Homages (a/k/a BSHT) (Part X)

The Brotherhood of Submariner Homages (a/k/a BSHT) (Part 11)

The Brotherhood of Submariner Homages (a/k/a BSHT) (Part 12)

Part 13 - deleted

The Brotherhood of Submariner Homages (a/k/a BSHT) (Part 14)

The Brotherhood of Submariner Homages (a/k/a BSHT) (Part 15)

The Brotherhood of Submariner Homages (a/k/a BSHT) (Part 16)

And the Repository of BSHT compiled by Imitrex.

Cheers!
Franco

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I left this at the end of Part 16 as well since Franco made the jump while I was posting it. So, here it is again...

I wonder how many folks find the price of a Rolex unattainable vs those who don't value the original enough to spend $5k+.

Side note: I absolutely love the tudor subs.

That is all...
For me, it doesn't have anything to do with price or value of a R*lex. It's all about choices, my choices, my likes and having something not many others have.

What I don't understand is why there are still people that can't see past this or that even care so much about it that they comment about it. So many products have come from something else and we as consumers have evolved with other products that took inspiration from the original. Why should a watch be any different. It's so narrow minded.

Besides, this thread would be pretty boring if we all showed off the same handful of $5k watches on different straps.

Long live the BSHT.



 

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There are lots of BSHT brothers who currently own, or have owned, gen subs but prefer the homage (perhaps more). No matter how you feel about homage watches (or the historically dubious topic that is) bringing a disdain for homage watches to an homage forum is just bad form. I mean, why bother?

I think if you read through these pages you'll find not only a group of guys (and ladies) that don't just jibberjabber about watches and their attributes, but a group of folks that genuinely care for (and look out for) one another!!

Bring something constructive. Bring something witty. Bring something fresh, fun, or new. But don't bring negativity. I can log onto any number of news/political websites for that. We've got that in spades!
 

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Besides, this thread would be pretty boring if we all showed off the same handful of $5k watches on different straps.
Bring something constructive. Bring something witty. Bring something fresh, fun, or new. But don't bring negativity. I can log onto any number of news/political websites for that. We've got that in spades!
True dat brothers!
 

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Leather, steel, nylon. It's all good. Just no mesh. Mesh sucks.


How about Flaming Rabbit And Cohorts Against Steel (F.R.A.C.A.S.)?

Thanks Franco and happy birthday!

In other good news, congrats to DVNE on the arrival of his beautiful twin girls, A and B.

I've got a personal update to add too. I've got an appointment next week with the hand specialist and am hoping to have this cast taken off! Fingers crossed for good news, although possibility exists for surgery on account of a flake of bone that had come off at the break and possibility of mis-alignment. Good thing it was my right hand tho. Yes, I'm right handed and I wear my watch on my LEFT!!

And a quick review of some of my favourites lately:




 

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Always love seeing your collection heebs! And looking forward to your full recovery, and that goes the same for Van (watchhawk) though I didn't know what really happened. You guys take care always.

DVNE!! Congratulations and welcome to the adorable twins :)





Leather, steel, nylon. It's all good. Just no mesh. Mesh sucks.


How about Flaming Rabbit And Cohorts Against Steel (F.R.A.C.A.S.)?

Thanks Franco and happy birthday!

In other good news, congrats to DVNE on the arrival of his beautiful twin girls, A and B.

I've got a personal update to add too. I've got an appointment next week with the hand specialist and am hoping to have this cast taken off! Fingers crossed for good news, although possibility exists for surgery on account of a flake of bone that had come off at the break and possibility of mis-alignment. Good thing it was my right hand tho. Yes, I'm right handed and I wear my watch on my LEFT!!

And a quick review of some of my favourites lately:




 

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I wrote this long, thought out reply, and then you make the jump. Its getting a repost.

I know that a lot of dive watches can trace their linage to the sub, but personally I just cant find it in me to buy an outright homage piece.

I understand that some of the homage watches are made and priced well. Considering the sheer number of sub homages and homage owners, it would be really interesting to see a poll on the reasons why they chose to buy an sub homage.

I wonder how many folks find the price of a Rolex unattainable vs those who don't value the original enough to spend $5k+.

Side note: I absolutely love the tudor subs.

That is all...
I'm happy to speak on this from my point of view.

I love vintage Subs. The modern 116610 SubC does nothing for me. My grail is a 6204/5, 5508, or 6536 small crown Sub. Everything about it just feels right to me: perfect size, gilt relief dial, abundant patina, and they're thin. Unfortunately, you can't get into one of those for less than $15,000 reaching up towards 6 figures on rare and pristine examples.

I started out like most everyone else here. I discovered the Submariner, found affordable homages, bought several, and learned more and more about the original. I have a lot of useless knowledge about the history of the Submariner. As time passed though, the affordable homages didn't do it for me. They were either too much cut & paste on the exact design, had cheaper parts, or they had other design changes which didn't bring any value to the table (I'm looking at you, short Squale hands). So from there I went backwards.

I found a lesser known vintage brand. It was Swiss made, used solid ETA movements, brought in design attributes of the original Subs, and could be had for a reasonable price. No, I'm not talking about Tudor. I'm talking about Solvil et Titus S.A. Their company dates back to the late 1800s. They never gained the notoriety of Rolex, but they were a solid company.

Titus makes a watch called the Calypsomatic. I guess it could be said it's a vintage homage to the Submariner made 5-10 years before it. The first one, ref 5913, was made in 1962/3. The last one, ref 7940, was made in 1978. They took inspiration from the original Rolex Subs while adding some of their own additions. Here's the first Calypsomatic 5913.



I happened upon these about 2 years ago; maybe a year after starting to learn about Submariners. They could be had fairly reasonable, but i was never prepared to pull the trigger. Spending $100 on a watch was a lot then, and they were selling for $200-$400. I kept waiting, kept learning, and walked my way through the different references. Here's a couple variations.



Fast forward to this spring. I had bought and flipped a couple vintage divers to beef up the PayPal account. I found a "upgraded" Calypsomatic, ref 7840, on eBay. I say "upgraded" because the seller advertised it as upgraded to a quartz movement. I made an offer, he countered, I countered, and it was sold. I received a watch that was basically in pieces. In mint condition it would have sold for much, much higher.


When it arrived, I was very pleased to find what was in the packaging. The previous owner Included the original bracelet, original movement, and original hands. I set to work. Here it was after a little effort.


Later I relumed the hands.




Mine is 38mm at the bezel, has a 6.5mm crown, true gilt relief dial, acrylic crystal, eta 2472, and it's only 11.2mm thick. Is it a copy of the Submariner? No, it has a number of its own attributes: countdown bezel, different hands, different shape, etc. Does it pay homage to the original? You sure bet. Do I love it? Absolutely. I hope you can see why it appeals to me. My story is similar to many others.

On a side note, I bought mine for $415. 2 years ago they were selling for $200-$400. Last week one sold for $1500. This week one sold for $1700. The highest I've seen one sell was $2,200. I think that homages the skyrocketing price of vintage Subs as well.

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I'm really tired of reading all the negative comments RE homages. Can't believe one crept (I actually first wrote creeped, OMG could you imagine what our cunning linguist would've said if I didn't catch that?) into our hallowed pages. It's like this is F2 or something. Haters gonna hate I guess. It's sad that so many people can only feel up when they are dragging someone down. Glad it's only once in a blue moon that it happens here. Long live our little haven on the interwebs.
 

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