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As everyone knows, Seiko have discontinued the SKX, and replaced it with a new Seiko 5 Sports line.

Despite the aesthetic similarities the new 5KX is not the serious tool watch that the SKX was. It lacks a screw down crown, bezel pip, and ISO rated water resistance.

However, I think that the 5KX is still a good watch. These are readily available for under £200, and at that price I think the specs are decent. I wouldn't pay the full price though. The top RRP is £300 and in that range there's a lot of better choices.

Anyway, what does everyone else think?

Below is my video review of the 5KX. I hope you enjoy it!
 

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As everyone knows, Seiko have discontinued the SKX, and replaced it with a new Seiko 5 Sports line.

Despite the aesthetic similarities the new 5KX is not the serious tool watch that the SKX was. It lacks a screw down crown, bezel pip, and ISO rated water resistance.

However, I think that the 5KX is still a good watch. These are readily available for under £200, and at that price I think the specs are decent. I wouldn't pay the full price though. The top RRP is £300 and in that range there's a lot of better choices.

Anyway, what does everyone else think?

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Killer review (Love your photography!).
 
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Sad to see the SKX go but the good thing is there are still a lot of them around.
Prices are quite high for the SKX now though. And to be honest I don't love it enough to pay that much.
 

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The 5KX is emblematic of why my affection for Seiko has largely evaporated over the past year or so. They replaced a serious watch with a fashion/sport watch that is less capable in several areas and are charging as much or more for it?

Cancelling watches like the SKX00x and Alpinest and replacing them with either less capable 5 Sports or more expensive Prospex versions reeks of a company that wants to bifurcate its product line (not including Grand Seiko in this) into either cheaper (although still more expensive than what came before) lines like 5 Sports or more expensive as with Prospex with little middle ground.

I have little experience in running multi-billion dollar enterprises so my opinion is largely worth what you paid for it but Seiko should have upgraded/updated the notoriously average movements in the SKX00x watches and otherwise left them alone. They were iconic for a reason. And they sold.

It's funny -- I took a flyer on a Pagani watch the other week just to see what one actually gets and for a price far less than this 5KX I also get a Seiko movement, probably a bracelet no worse than the grim examples provided by Seiko, an actual sapphire crystal instead of that awful Hardlex and the same water resistance. I can't judge other metrics until I actually have receipt of the watch but I do believe that I will be more satisfied by the Pagani than by what Seiko is trying to sell me.
 

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The 5KX is emblematic of why my affection for Seiko has largely evaporated over the past year or so. They replaced a serious watch with a fashion/sport watch that is less capable in several areas and are charging as much or more for it?

Cancelling watches like the SKX00x and Alpinest and replacing them with either less capable 5 Sports or more expensive Prospex versions reeks of a company that wants to bifurcate its product line (not including Grand Seiko in this) into either cheaper (although still more expensive than what came before) lines like 5 Sports or more expensive as with Prospex with little middle ground.

I have little experience in running multi-billion dollar enterprises so my opinion is largely worth what you paid for it but Seiko should have upgraded/updated the notoriously average movements in the SKX00x watches and otherwise left them alone. They were iconic for a reason. And they sold.

It's funny -- I took a flyer on a Pagani watch the other week just to see what one actually gets and for a price far less than this 5KX I also get a Seiko movement, probably a bracelet no worse than the grim examples provided by Seiko, an actual sapphire crystal instead of that awful Hardlex and the same water resistance. I can't judge other metrics until I actually have receipt of the watch but I do believe that I will be more satisfied by the Pagani than by what Seiko is trying to sell me.
I think the unfortunate reality is that from a business perspective WIS types probably make up a tiny portion of seiko’s total sales.

IMO the turtle is the better candidate for the replacement as the entry level tool watch. The 5KX is more of a replacement for the previous 5 sports line, and in that regard you’re paying more of an upgraded movement and build quality (my Sea Urchin looked and felt a lot cheaper than the 5KX). The 5KX prices are starting to drop and will hopefully be sub $200 fairly soon. My local Macy’s had them for $170 recently.
 

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The 5KX is emblematic of why my affection for Seiko has largely evaporated over the past year or so. They replaced a serious watch with a fashion/sport watch that is less capable in several areas and are charging as much or more for it?

Cancelling watches like the SKX00x and Alpinest and replacing them with either less capable 5 Sports or more expensive Prospex versions reeks of a company that wants to bifurcate its product line (not including Grand Seiko in this) into either cheaper (although still more expensive than what came before) lines like 5 Sports or more expensive as with Prospex with little middle ground.

I have little experience in running multi-billion dollar enterprises so my opinion is largely worth what you paid for it but Seiko should have upgraded/updated the notoriously average movements in the SKX00x watches and otherwise left them alone. They were iconic for a reason. And they sold.

It's funny -- I took a flyer on a Pagani watch the other week just to see what one actually gets and for a price far less than this 5KX I also get a Seiko movement, probably a bracelet no worse than the grim examples provided by Seiko, an actual sapphire crystal instead of that awful Hardlex and the same water resistance. I can't judge other metrics until I actually have receipt of the watch but I do believe that I will be more satisfied by the Pagani than by what Seiko is trying to sell me.
I think you make an excellent point about where Seiko are taking their products. Like you, my desire to buy a new model is evaporating.

Seiko seem determined to raise prices quite steeply whilst only offering minor improvements. I think a lot of the new Prospex stuff is pretty overpriced for what they are.

However, as Gav says, I think the prices on these 5KX are quickly dropping. Here in the UK Amazon are offering them for around £180.
 

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I have sort of had a desire for the SKX, but I never pulled the trigger as it always had something lacking for me. Don't ask me what as you will get 90% irrelevance, so it just is not worth it! But the new versions are okish but for the moment over priced for something that is not a tool watch.

So thanks to a recommendation or two here I bought one of these a while back as this is what I think the replacement watch for the SKX should have been what Seiko should have - could have made :giggle: YMMV, but for around £120 for this watch, it hacks is 200m, has a screw down crown, the bracelet is comfortable and I am very Happy with it.

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The SKX was a true icon of a tool diver and the poor little 5KX had a very big pair of boots to try and fill. It’s not succeeded but is a good looking watch doing its best.
So true.

Say what you will about the specs of the 5KX (or, hell, the SKX) - the fact remains that the 7002/SKX case shape is an icon of Seiko's design legacy. Seiko can (and, I assume, will) continue to use it in the manner it suspects will make it the most money. That said, it is something to be celebrated, without specific regard to the current catalog.

Now, if they will just re-release it as a loss-leader, with modern specs and an ISO rating, all for under $200, we will ALL be able to (happily) crawl back under our bridges. ;)
 
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