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I know most of you have figured out the name already based on a couple posts. BUT, you have not seen it accompanied by this next Picture. Let me know if you notice anything else in this snippet.;-)

The Seaconqueror

 

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Mmm...Its growing on me!
 

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I know most of you have figured out the name already based on a couple posts. BUT, you have not seen it accompanied by this next post. Let me know what you think of this little snippet picture.;-)

The Seaconqueror

Strange to see the Doxa logo centered and not offset to the left. Also I am not sure about the silver hands. :-s I guess, like Pete suggests, I will reserve final judgement until the complete reveal. The font on the Seaconquerer looks a little odd and hard to read. IMO, they should have used the same font style as the Conquistador. :think:

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Hi Malayel, As we continue posting single features of the new SUB, please remember, this is a complete watch, and can only be looked at in whole, and believe me, this is a stunning watch and the most beautiful SUB ever made! All editors of the watch magazines, who have watched the evolution of the line over the past few years, and I really mean all of them, have called this watch the best SUB ever and are featuring it in the next issues of their publications. I am sure when you have seen this watch in the flesh, you will like to order one too.

Yes, the new DOXA SUB will have the logo and name centered. Remember, we are gradually shifting away from the retro look of the SUB300T, with a new bracelet, applied markers and centered logo, For those who are fond of the vintage and retro look, the SUB1000T is the closest to the original of 1967. For bigger sized wrists, the GMT and the new T-GRAPH will retain the retro look as we move forward towards an entirely new design.

The font used on the dial is the original Divingstar font, it was used in italic in order.

BTW, I intentionally had this picture made, to show the thickness and the build quality of the hands, and the amount of Superluminova used, THIS SUB stands for Quality !

we appreciate your opinion, so keep the feedback coming

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Is that a real word?:think: Sea Conqueror ? :-! That's ok. They can call it the big orange clown watch and I'd still buy it!:-!

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The Seaconqueror is not a real word, else it would be separated in 2 words. It is the superlative of names like the searambler, seamaster, seastar etc.., because it will basically challenge and conquer any dive watch in earth today

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MMMM,,,,, Silver hands, i mentioned that i felt things were going bling before this just confirms it.

DOXA are, to me, about a dive watch that is solid for the job yet that bit different, that wearing it with a suit is also an option and not unusual. But at the end of the day it is a good solid dive watch.

These silver hands coupled with the markers seem to be taking the watch into the fashion watch world. I have always liked what DOXA do with the hands with the differing colours.

I am not convinced.


I will however reserve judgement, you can't move forward without making change.

Carl.

(Seaconquerer?? Please don't go down the car world route of making names up)
 

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Strange to see the Doxa logo centered and not offset to the left. Also I am not sure about the silver hands. :-s I guess, like Pete suggests, I will reserve final judgement until the complete reveal. The font on the Seaconquerer looks a little odd and hard to read. IMO, they should have used the same font style as the Conquistador. :think:
Sometimes change is good. Just from what little I know of it so far; It looks like Doxa is out to set a new standard in dive watches. Just like they did in the 60's. Orange still is the best color to see under water. Big hands are important. Easily adjustable bands are important. HRV are important. Big dials also help. Ability to withstand high amounts of pressure. Oh yea! BIG shiny watches attract sharks.:-d
 

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HRV are important.
come on, HRV's are important? :roll: Cool, yes. Important, no. :-d

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The HRV is a milestone in the DOXA history, and if future models of the DOXA SUB will incorporate it, then 90% of it is a hommage to the Conquistador, the world's first HRV equipped watch, and 10% our contribution to the dive world and to those saturation divers out there, who like to use a mechanical backup to their computer

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The hands can't be that bling...otherwise we would have noticed from pic 4/10? no?

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The hands are not bling, they are very masculine and only reflect highest quality

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come on, HRV's are important? :roll: Cool, yes. Important, no. :-d
Yes not important too me. I have a 7 ft deep pool. That is the extent of my diving. :-!Not much diving going on in the mid west unless someone drowns.

To some HRV is VERY important. Say your watch falls off while diving. It drops to the bottom of the ocean. You don't want it to implode before you retrieve it. Someday you might just be able to dive that deep and retrieve your (now classic) Doxa watch. :-d:-d:-d

Oh yea. Your right. It does just look cool with the valve. |>
 

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Would it be safe to assume there will be no other dial "embellishment" as we have seen most of the dial and now the hands?

Considering the centered Doxa and SeaConqueror names, it doesn't appear there will be a diver-type logo and the dial will seem a little plain to me unless they fit the WR rating in there somewhere.

At this point, I'm still not sure if it's enough of a variation from the 750T Pro, even with the metal hands and markers.

More waiting is in order to make a final determination.

Thanks, Jason, for the updtaes!
 

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Strange to see the Doxa logo centered and not offset to the left. Also I am not sure about the silver hands. :-s I guess, like Pete suggests, I will reserve final judgement until the complete reveal. The font on the Seaconquerer looks a little odd and hard to read. IMO, they should have used the same font style as the Conquistador. :think:

Hi Malayel, As we continue posting single features of the new SUB, please remember, this is a complete watch, and can only be looked at in whole, and believe me, this is a stunning watch and the most beautiful SUB ever made! All editors of the watch magazines, who have watched the evolution of the line over the past few years, and I really mean all of them, have called this watch the best SUB ever and are featuring it in the next issues of their publications. I am sure when you have seen this watch in the flesh, you will like to order one.

Yes, the new DOXA SUB will have the logo and name centered. Remember, we are gradually shifting away from the retro look of the SUB300T, with a new bracelet, applied markers and centered logo, For those who are fond of the vintage and retro look, the SUB1000T is the closest to the original of 1967. For bigger sized wrists, the GMT and the new T-GRAPH will retain the retro look as we move forward towards an entirely new design.

The font used on the dial is the original Divingstar font, it was used in italic in order.

BTW, I intentionally had this picture made, to show the thickness and the build quality of the hands. This is true quality !


we appreciate your opinion, so keep the feedback coming

Rick

 

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Well as some already stated, I also reserve final judgement until I see the whole "PUMPKIN".
My intention was that the Conquistador / new name Seaconqueror is the top of the range Dive-Tool as I see Doxa watches to be more a tool than a dressy item.

Now with all that chromed parts and polished Centerlinks I am not quite sure if it will be my taste.
I can see a move into the dressdiver direction, which I really dislike. That´s my twocents others may vary.

I also dislike the move of other companies in the last ten years into this blingy direction but it seems to be the current fashionstyle and taste of the majority.
Maybe that´s why I love the vintage watches more - not only Doxas.
For example the whitegold cups Rolex uses on the dials are a total "NO" for my taste, only exeption are the blackened cups of the current Explorer II.
I like more the printed markers most companies used in the 70´s or the massive metal markers blackened or satinized.
The 1970´s partially 80´s watchdesigns where very simple and had that bit of understatement with their brushed or satinized cases, printed Dials and painted hands. This is what I miss today, where everything has to be shiny. Doxa did it for my taste right with the last issued Reeditions.

Besides the shine and bling I think Doxa should print the names at the known positions.

Like DOXA automatic top left and SUB XXXXT Seaconqueror at the lower right.
Now it looks a bit to me like a Breitling Superocean printing or whatever, with the missing SUB 1XXX T and the printing centered.

AS I said before these are just my thoughts and I think Doxa has some design point which let every kid recon a Doxa as a Doxa and these shouldn´t be changed.
I reserve final judgement until I see the whole watch, maybe I am pleasantly surprised.

I would vote as mentioned before in another thread for an additional "TOOLVERSION" with less bling, in a Box or Pelicase where the watch and a DiveKit fits in.

Regards Bernie

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Hi Bernie, and welcome back to the forum. Let me start by saying, this bling feel you are describing, is not here at all. This is a misperception that I want to clarify before it starts spreading. I hold one of those pieces in my hands as I write, and bling is not what I see, I see a heavy tool watch with the best luminosity you can get on a dive watch and a feeling of supreme build quality.

Stay tuned and you will know, what I mean

We appreciate your feedback !

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Think I'm gonna miss the "crosshairs" if they're gone, but the blue Seaconquerer font is a cool "look".

Actually kinda relieved the hands are polished. After the domed crystal, screwbar shot I was afraid the hands would be White against the orange dial.

Seeing the whole watch, the sum of the parts, will be interesting.

Watching closely!

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I think the centered Doxa logo is fine. The silver hands, I don't know, but I think that will look good together with the new hour markers!
I was one of the people who was hoping for only small changes in the design of the dial, as I like the classy, uncluttered look of the surrent Subs. The changes we have seen so far have not been that major, so I think I will be happy with it.

I do not like the font of the "Seaconquerer". Hard to read, and doesn't look right. I would prefer a basic, normal font on this big, chunky sportswatch. Would fit the style of the watch better, but that is just my opinion.
 

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Hmm seem to be heading bling-bling here, is a pink dial and diamond bezel as previously seen an option ??? :-d

I seriously hope there is something else on the dial otherwise it's gonna be awfully plain... Guess will need to see the complete thing before making a final call.

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Cant wait to see the thing as a whole. I agree that the hands look shiny, and one of the cool design features I have always loved with pro Doxa is the black markings on the dial and black hands. I suspect the silver hands and applied markers will look similar, but have an inconstant or continually "changing" appearance of the dial. I think it is likely to be cool...
 

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At this point I'm seeing features that are standard on the Steelfish. Since Doxa is now competing pricewise it was inevitable that they would have to start paying attention to details. The difficult part is doing this and still keeping their identity. I'll just have to wait and see the whole watch before I can make a decision. At this point Doxa has to start attracting the ordinary man on the street that's in the market for a $2000 plus watch. That person will know nothing of dive watch history. They will be looking for a quality product with excellent finish that stands out. The black hands and painted markers on the current Doxa just can't compete with the polished look of the Breitlings or Omegas. Once Doxa gets their attention, features like the new bracelet will hook them. I just can't believe people are freaking out about polished steel hands. They are standard on my 27 year old Pepsi Diver non Blingy watch. You don't really notice the metal. What catches your eye is all that lume.
 

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Ok, who is good at Photo Shop? We have the applied markers and a bit of the face. Put these together and lets see what it may look like.

I have seen some really good stuff from a few on the forum.
 

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This small pic with silver hands doesn't look great, BUT I'm confident that the polished hands will look really good in real life. I use my Ball Mad Cow as an example, the polished hands look fantastic. Is the "Seaconquerer" name in blue on the dial? I think keeping it black would be better.

Looking good doxa!

p.s. no slotted screwheads, use hex please.
 
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